News: CRB check to travel with your own child!!!

Aardvark · 10-07-2008, 08:11 PM

Obviously this is in Wales and there are some very simple council workers in Merthyr, but it is yet more lunacy.

BBC NEWS | Wales | South East Wales | Mum's police check for school run

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Mum's police check for school run

Alex Jones takes 32 drugs each day for his epilepsy (Photo: Merthyr Express)
A mother has been told she cannot travel to school with her severely epileptic son because she has not been police checked.

Jayne Jones, of Aberfan near Merthyr Tydfil, used to travel with her son Alex, 14, in the council-provided taxi when she feared he may have a fit.

But Merthyr Tydfil council has told her this must stop until she has undergone a Criminal Records Bureau (CRB) check.

The council said this was a standard requirement for escorting children.

Mrs Jones, 41, who is Alex's full-time carer, said: "I still don't understand why being his parent and being trained to use his drugs, I'm not allowed in the taxi.

"I would be in no contact with any children other than my own child.

"It would be a case of me going to school and catching a bus home and that's it.

"I really don't understand it."

Mrs Jones said she was in the process of being CRB-checked but was not allowed to travel with her son until it had been completed.

My husband and I are the only ones trained to give or use any medication for Alex

Jayne Jones

Alex, who requires 24-hour care, has cerebral palsy and epilepsy.

Mrs Jones said he required 32 anti-convulsant drugs each day and had an operation on Boxing Day last year to try to control his epilepsy.

He has been fitted with a Vagus Nerve Stimulation device which sends an electrical pulse to the brain at regular intervals.

These signals help control electrical signals in the brain that cause seizures.

Alex attends Greenfield school near Merthyr Tydfil and travels in a taxi with a driver and an escort.

But Mrs Jones said the driver and escorts were not trained to use Alex's medication.

"My husband and I are the only ones trained to give or use any medication for Alex," she said.

"If you use any kind of anti-convulsant drugs, you have to be trained to use them, they can't be handed over willy-nilly to anybody.

"If we can't get in the cab with him, then he's being put at risk."

Mrs Jones who also has another son, 8-year-old Lucas, said the experience had impacted on her whole family.

"What's important to us is Alex's wellbeing - Lucas knows which drugs Alex needs to stay alive - he's very caring.

"What we need now is to resolve the matter before September hopefully," she added.

A spokesperson for Merthyr council said: "We cannot comment on particular cases but can confirm that CRB checking is a requirement of our transport provisions in relation to adults travelling on home-to-school transport in the capacity of an escort.

"This is a standard requirement and has been for several years.

"Any adult acting as an escort will, in the public gaze, be viewed as acting with the full acquiescence of the council and hence with its implied authority.

"For the protection of the council and all vulnerable persons in its care it's essential all those endowed with an authority, implicit or explicit, should meet the security requirements within the transport contract provisions."

a swansong 4 europe · 10-07-2008, 08:14 PM

When are these people in power, officiating such nonsense ,going to be given the proverbial wellington?

g hall · 10-07-2008, 10:01 PM

Some people have far too much power and far too little common sense

a swansong 4 europe · 10-07-2008, 10:19 PM

Yes, and much of it it seems to be in the tiny minds of the voting public.

How little do they realise what an extremely powerful thing an "x" in a box is, yet with such wild abandonment they cast it with all the accuracy of a p*ssed-up angler surrounded by fish but landing instead, the decaying remnants of some-one's old boot and then believing they have caught a wholesome meal capable of sufficing the masses.

Aardvark · 11-07-2008, 08:18 AM

Good analogy s4e. One of yours?

Wessexman · 15-07-2008, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by g hall

Some people have far too much power and far too little common sense

You just summed up the modern world there mate.

Hunter · 20-07-2008, 06:59 PM

A simple solution for her would be to demand a letter from the council stating that they accept full responsibility for the safety of her son during the time he is out of her care.

I bet they'd be quick to find a way of working it out.

Dissident Congress · 21-07-2008, 02:44 PM

Many primary schools will not allow parents inside without them making a formal appointment beforehand - sometimes up to a week in advance. They have to drop off and pick up their children at the gates.

Back in the days when I was at primary school, my parents could enter the building at the start or end of the day as they pleased and have a chat with the teachers or look at the work I produced. Those days are over and schools now function like prisons to keep children in and parents out.

Dunblane has a lot to answer for this although our Orwellian government isn't far behind.

youcanhandlethetruth · 22-07-2008, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by g hall

Some people have far too much power and far too little common sense

It's not about missing common sense - it's about adopting crazy policies that shaft people (a bit like the new rules surrounding rubbish bins/collections ?)

youcanhandlethetruth · 22-07-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Dissident Congress

Many primary schools will not allow parents inside without them making a formal appointment beforehand - sometimes up to a week in advance. They have to drop off and pick up their children at the gates.

Back in the days when I was at primary school, my parents could enter the building at the start or end of the day as they pleased and have a chat with the teachers or look at the work I produced. Those days are over and schools now function like prisons to keep children in and parents out.

Dunblane has a lot to answer for this although our Orwellian government isn't far behind.

Yep schools as prisons is the plan !

Noticed you mentioned Dunblane.....

Virginia School Shooting: Another Government Black-Op?

"In 1996 a similar incident occurred in Dunblane in Scotland where sixteen children and one adult were killed. The resulting inquiry recommended tighter control of handgun ownership, public feeling had turned against private gun ownership, allowing a much more restrictive ban on handguns to pass.

It then emerged that the killer Thomas Hamilton was heavily involved in Freemasonry[LINK] , as well as running clubs for young boys, a fact which Labour and Tory ministers acknowledged in correspondence to each other. A a 100-year public secrecy order[LINK] was placed on the documents, along with the majority of other information relating to the case including the police report. There have been allegations that the lengthy closure order was placed on the report after it linked Hamilton to figures in the Scottish establishment, including two senior politicians and a lawyer."

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Dissident Congress Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 750	Many primary schools will not allow parents inside without them making a formal appointment beforehand - sometimes up to a week in advance. They have to drop off and pick up their children at the gates. Back in the days when I was at primary school, my parents could enter the building at the start or end of the day as they pleased and have a chat with the teachers or look at the work I produced. Those days are over and schools now function like prisons to keep children in and parents out. Dunblane has a lot to answer for this although our Orwellian government isn't far behind. __________________ Dissident Congress Promoting Populist Patriotism Our Nation - Our People - Our Heritage - Our Future

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10-07-2008, 08:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
a swansong 4 europe Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 411	When are these people in power, officiating such nonsense ,going to be given the proverbial wellington?

10-07-2008, 10:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
a swansong 4 europe Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 411	Yes, and much of it it seems to be in the tiny minds of the voting public. How little do they realise what an extremely powerful thing an "x" in a box is, yet with such wild abandonment they cast it with all the accuracy of a p*ssed-up angler surrounded by fish but landing instead, the decaying remnants of some-one's old boot and then believing they have caught a wholesome meal capable of sufficing the masses.

20-07-2008, 06:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hunter Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 822	A simple solution for her would be to demand a letter from the council stating that they accept full responsibility for the safety of her son during the time he is out of her care. I bet they'd be quick to find a way of working it out.