Koran should be taught in OUR schools.

prober · 31-03-2008, 06:46 PM

CHristianity is historically the indigenous religion of UK like Islam in Saudi Arabia . Christians pay taxes and have an absolute right to send their kids to a state funded Christian ethos school if they so wish. Secular parents similar can send their kids to a secular school . If an authoritarian anti values anti religious state doesnt like it then Christians should have the right to per capita cost of state education voucher to use towards private school fees.

The Bear · 01-04-2008, 08:20 AM

Schools should be absolutely secular. There should be NO religious themed schools under any circumstances. Teaching kids that fairy stories are fact is simply WRONG.

Religion and education really should be mutually exclusive, education should be about fact and reality and growing the individual, religion is about superstition and belomngs in the dark ages.

HighlandFP · 01-04-2008, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bear

Schools should be absolutely secular. There should be NO religious themed schools under any circumstances. Teaching kids that fairy stories are fact is simply WRONG.

Religion and education really should be mutually exclusive, education should be about fact and reality and growing the individual, religion is about superstition and belomngs in the dark ages.

Perhaps the schools could start wid teachin readin writing and arifmitic.
I find kids are totally dumped doon.

Luckily Bear darlink we still have educated, cultured people like what we are.

The Bear · 01-04-2008, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighlandFP

Perhaps the schools could start wid teachin readin writing and arifmitic.
I find kids are totally dumped doon.

Luckily Bear darlink we still have educated, cultured people like what we are.

Not sure about the second bit, at least in my case, but I agree with the first!

rjt · 06-04-2008, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prober

CHristianity is historically the indigenous religion of UK like Islam in Saudi Arabia . Christians pay taxes and have an absolute right to send their kids to a state funded Christian ethos school if they so wish. Secular parents similar can send their kids to a secular school . If an authoritarian anti values anti religious state doesnt like it then Christians should have the right to per capita cost of state education voucher to use towards private school fees.

Nice post Prober

extra ordinary · 06-04-2008, 04:38 PM

I believe in one God maker of heaven in earth.
I want, but will not likely get Christianity to be the main thing in this Christian country.

I wish my child and any child to live and grow in the teachings and protection of our lord Jesus Christ. ( Christianity is obtained through the persons free will, you open the door from the inside. God gave us the power to choose )

you will not find the above written above the hallway in your local comprehensive.

You will find it written on my heart and those who truly believe.

we are are a great Christian nation.
be a defender of the faith in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit.

No one can come to the father except by the son.

note; Christians live according to scripture in the context of the new testament.

HighlandFP · 07-04-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by extra ordinary

we are are a great Christian nation.

Thank goodness someone believes that extra ordinary remark.

Have an extra ordinaryily good day

TannyD · 07-04-2008, 04:12 PM

The Koran or Quaran should only be taught to a school that caters to a school where only Muslim children go!!! Targetting impressionable naive childen to covert them is WRONG!!! If things like this start to happen people should all start home-schooling there kids!! Giving other people power and control over your children who are the next generation, the subtle start of increased social conversion and manipulation!!! Arrrgggghhh!!! *turns purple and tears hair out*

Tony Bennett · 13-04-2008, 08:51 PM

No matter whether it's Jews, or Christians, or any innocents really, killing is the answer for 'offended' and permanenetly-persecuted Muslims.

Here's another appalling story from this week's 'Qatar Daily':

==============================================

QUOTE

Workers kill Hindu colleague for ‘blasphemy’

Web posted at: 4/9/2008 6:42:6
Source ::: AFP

KARACHI • Dozens of Muslim workers at a factory in Karachi beat to death a Hindu colleague yesterday for alleged blasphemy, officials said.

======

Jagdish Kumar, 27, was tortured and killed at the leather factory in the southern port city for allegedly making derogatory remarks about the Prophet Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him), police and hospital officials said.

“Dozens of workers at the factory in the Korangi industrial area beat to death the Hindu worker over allegations that he spoke against the sanctity of the Prophet Mohammed,” police superintendent Farrukh Bashir said.

The mob was trying to burn the body when officers arrived and took it away, Bashir added. Police had made several arrests, he said, without giving numbers.

The body had various injuries, said a doctor at Karachi’s Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Centre, where it was taken for an autopsy. “The marks of torture and injuries caused by hard objects are visible on the body. The autopsy is going to be performed later,” doctor Mohammad Saleem said.

The Sindh government had ordered an inquiry into the killing, said provincial home secretary Arif Ahmed Khan.

UNQUOTE

=============================================

I still say that Mohammed would be liable to prosecution for child sexual abuse today if, at the age of 54, as all Islamic scholars historically have agreed, he consummated his betrothal to his child bride Aisha whe she was 9.

With the news this week of 500 Mormon women and teenagers being rescued from a cult residence where there was persistent child sexual abuse and multiple wives, it's interesting to see how Brigham Young, founder of the Mormon cult, emulated Mohammed's famous example by retreating to a cave and emerging with angelic messages saying it was O.K. to have multiple wives and sex with girls as young as you fancy - all from God!

It's a good job Christians don't react the same way every time Jesus Christ's name is tarnished and abused.

But then we know that He, unlike Mohammed, is still alive

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HighlandFP · 13-04-2008, 09:18 PM

[quote=Tony Bennett;486777]No matter whether it's Jews, or Christians, or any innocents really, killing is the answer for 'offended' and permanenetly-persecuted Muslims.

Here's another appalling story from this week's 'Qatar Daily':

==============================================

QUOTE

Workers kill Hindu colleague for ‘blasphemy’

Web posted at: 4/9/2008 6:42:6
Source ::: AFP

KARACHI • Dozens of Muslim workers at a factory in Karachi beat to death a Hindu colleague yesterday for alleged blasphemy, officials said.

======

We must all, Christians & Muslims & Hindus alike, pray for Hindu

=============================================

I still say that Mohammed would be liable to prosecution for child sexual abuse today if, at the age of 54, as all Islamic scholars historically have agreed, he consummated his betrothal to his child bride Aisha whe she was 9.

With the news this week of 500 Mormon women and teenagers being rescued from a cult residence where there was persistent child sexual abuse and multiple wives, it's interesting to see how Brigham Young, founder of the Mormon cult, emulated Mohammed's famous example by retreating to a cave and emerging with angelic messages saying it was O.K. to have multiple wives and sex with girls as young as you fancy - all from God!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I expect the Laws were different a thousand years go.

Teenage pregnancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The average age of menarche (first menstrual period) in the United States is 12.5, though this figure varies by ethnicity

Mississippi 21 yrs Marriage licenses cannot be issued to males under 17, or females under 15 years of age. If the clerk receives a signed authorization from the parents, this minimum age requirement can be waived.

Indiana: If you are 15 years old, you must petition the Circuit Court via a "Permission to Marry" form.

Michigan: Applicants under the age of 15 with parental consent and probate court permission.

pregnant 9 year old - Google Search
14 Feb 2008 ... Furious Animal rights groups today attacked a zoo for letting a nine-year-old Asian elephant become pregnant - claiming she's too young.

As a Wedding photographer, I dont mind what age the Bride is.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

It's a good job Christians don't react the same way every time Jesus Christ's name is tarnished and abused.

But then we know that He, unlike Mohammed, is still alive

+++++++ Oh Really +++++ Can you prove this?

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TannyD Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cafe Rene. :D Posts: 842	The Koran or Quaran should only be taught to a school that caters to a school where only Muslim children go!!! Targetting impressionable naive childen to covert them is WRONG!!! If things like this start to happen people should all start home-schooling there kids!! Giving other people power and control over your children who are the next generation, the subtle start of increased social conversion and manipulation!!! Arrrgggghhh!!! turns purple and tears hair out __________________ Ignore/Avoid List: youcanhandlethetruth.

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Tony Bennett Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,036	Mohammed's followers kill Hindu for 'blasphemy' No matter whether it's Jews, or Christians, or any innocents really, killing is the answer for 'offended' and permanenetly-persecuted Muslims. Here's another appalling story from this week's 'Qatar Daily': ============================================== QUOTE Workers kill Hindu colleague for ‘blasphemy’ Web posted at: 4/9/2008 6:42:6 Source ::: AFP KARACHI • Dozens of Muslim workers at a factory in Karachi beat to death a Hindu colleague yesterday for alleged blasphemy, officials said. ====== Jagdish Kumar, 27, was tortured and killed at the leather factory in the southern port city for allegedly making derogatory remarks about the Prophet Muhammed (Peace Be Upon Him), police and hospital officials said. “Dozens of workers at the factory in the Korangi industrial area beat to death the Hindu worker over allegations that he spoke against the sanctity of the Prophet Mohammed,” police superintendent Farrukh Bashir said. The mob was trying to burn the body when officers arrived and took it away, Bashir added. Police had made several arrests, he said, without giving numbers. The body had various injuries, said a doctor at Karachi’s Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Centre, where it was taken for an autopsy. “The marks of torture and injuries caused by hard objects are visible on the body. The autopsy is going to be performed later,” doctor Mohammad Saleem said. The Sindh government had ordered an inquiry into the killing, said provincial home secretary Arif Ahmed Khan. UNQUOTE ============================================= I still say that Mohammed would be liable to prosecution for child sexual abuse today if, at the age of 54, as all Islamic scholars historically have agreed, he consummated his betrothal to his child bride Aisha whe she was 9. With the news this week of 500 Mormon women and teenagers being rescued from a cult residence where there was persistent child sexual abuse and multiple wives, it's interesting to see how Brigham Young, founder of the Mormon cult, emulated Mohammed's famous example by retreating to a cave and emerging with angelic messages saying it was O.K. to have multiple wives and sex with girls as young as you fancy - all from God! It's a good job Christians don't react the same way every time Jesus Christ's name is tarnished and abused. But then we know that He, unlike Mohammed, is still alive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by Tony Bennett; 13-04-2008 at 08:53 PM.

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HighlandFP Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ross-shire Highlands SCOTLAND Posts: 586 Party: Other	[quote=Tony Bennett;486777]No matter whether it's Jews, or Christians, or any innocents really, killing is the answer for 'offended' and permanenetly-persecuted Muslims. Here's another appalling story from this week's 'Qatar Daily': ============================================== QUOTE Workers kill Hindu colleague for ‘blasphemy’ Web posted at: 4/9/2008 6:42:6 Source ::: AFP KARACHI • Dozens of Muslim workers at a factory in Karachi beat to death a Hindu colleague yesterday for alleged blasphemy, officials said. ====== We must all, Christians & Muslims & Hindus alike, pray for Hindu ============================================= I still say that Mohammed would be liable to prosecution for child sexual abuse today if, at the age of 54, as all Islamic scholars historically have agreed, he consummated his betrothal to his child bride Aisha whe she was 9. With the news this week of 500 Mormon women and teenagers being rescued from a cult residence where there was persistent child sexual abuse and multiple wives, it's interesting to see how Brigham Young, founder of the Mormon cult, emulated Mohammed's famous example by retreating to a cave and emerging with angelic messages saying it was O.K. to have multiple wives and sex with girls as young as you fancy - all from God! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I expect the Laws were different a thousand years go. Teenage pregnancy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The average age of menarche (first menstrual period) in the United States is 12.5, though this figure varies by ethnicity Mississippi 21 yrs Marriage licenses cannot be issued to males under 17, or females under 15 years of age. If the clerk receives a signed authorization from the parents, this minimum age requirement can be waived. Indiana: If you are 15 years old, you must petition the Circuit Court via a "Permission to Marry" form. Michigan: Applicants under the age of 15 with parental consent and probate court permission. pregnant 9 year old - Google Search 14 Feb 2008 ... Furious Animal rights groups today attacked a zoo for letting a nine-year-old Asian elephant become pregnant - claiming she's too young. As a Wedding photographer, I dont mind what age the Bride is. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It's a good job Christians don't react the same way every time Jesus Christ's name is tarnished and abused. But then we know that He, unlike Mohammed, is still alive +++++++ Oh Really +++++ Can you prove this? __________________ WARNING: By reading or downloading this post you may be committing an offence under some or all of these Terrorism Acts. http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/securit...m-and-the-law/ EU = Ein Volk ~ Ein Reich.

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31-03-2008, 06:46 PM	#41 (permalink)
prober Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 855	CHristianity is historically the indigenous religion of UK like Islam in Saudi Arabia . Christians pay taxes and have an absolute right to send their kids to a state funded Christian ethos school if they so wish. Secular parents similar can send their kids to a secular school . If an authoritarian anti values anti religious state doesnt like it then Christians should have the right to per capita cost of state education voucher to use towards private school fees.

01-04-2008, 08:20 AM	#42 (permalink)
The Bear Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 2,178	Schools should be absolutely secular. There should be NO religious themed schools under any circumstances. Teaching kids that fairy stories are fact is simply WRONG. Religion and education really should be mutually exclusive, education should be about fact and reality and growing the individual, religion is about superstition and belomngs in the dark ages.

06-04-2008, 04:38 PM	#46 (permalink)
extra ordinary Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: south east Posts: 196	I believe in one God maker of heaven in earth. I want, but will not likely get Christianity to be the main thing in this Christian country. I wish my child and any child to live and grow in the teachings and protection of our lord Jesus Christ. ( Christianity is obtained through the persons free will, you open the door from the inside. God gave us the power to choose ) you will not find the above written above the hallway in your local comprehensive. You will find it written on my heart and those who truly believe. we are are a great Christian nation. be a defender of the faith in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit. No one can come to the father except by the son. note; Christians live according to scripture in the context of the new testament.