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Old 09-04-2008, 06:20 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Some more info I picked up the other day. John Denham MP is one of the very few MPs in New Labour to hold a science degree, so he was spouting off in New Scientist about how wonderful ID cards were, because he was a 'scientist', albeit someone who holds a degree in chemistry. On checking I noticed that his life is as follows:
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John Denham was born in Seaton and was educated at the Woodroffe Comprehensive School) on Uplyme Road in Lyme Regis and the University of Southampton, where he took a BSc in Chemistry, and was President of the Students' Union in the academic year 1976-7. After leaving education in 1977 he became an advice worker at the Energy Advice Agency in Durham, before becoming a transport campaigner with Friends of the Earth in 1978. He was Head of Youth Affairs at the British Council from 1979 until 1983, and was responsible for public education and advocacy for War on Want from 1984 to 1988. He subsequently worked for Christian Aid, Oxfam and other development agencies until his election to Westminster. He began his political career as a Trotskyist.[1]

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So there you have it, a list of Communist friendly firms that could be everything a young Trotskyite could ever wish for.
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There's a whole lot worse ideologies around than communism.

In any case, I see communism as a stage in the evolution of a society from feudalist brutality towards modern democracy.

Such was certainly the case with old Russia, What a shower of brutal selfish pigs the powers that be, or rather were, in pre revolution times.
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There's a whole lot worse ideologies around than communism.
In any case, I see communism as a stage in the evolution of a society from feudalist brutality towards modern democracy.
Such was certainly the case with old Russia, What a shower of brutal selfish pigs the powers that be, or rather were, in pre revolution times.
"There's a whole lot worse ideologies around than communism."

Bear darlink, please name, oh, several, just a few ................
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Bear darlink, please name, oh, several, just a few ................
Here’s a few, and a few notes as to why.

Top of the pile is of course the horrible combination of ideology and cult, Islam.

A thing that combines many of the characteristics of Nazism with a septic intent to oppress the whole world.

A degenerate thing built of a tissue of lies surrounding plagurised parts of pre existing contemporary religions.

Next, another cult based on warped and amazingly odd ball religious beliefs, Nazism. #

Though for that matter any form of nationalism based on the foolish belief that there is any universal master race. The intent to dominate and enslave combined with a ruthless relationship with any races of people its votaries consider inferior, it is both puerile and at the same time venomous and should be confronted whenever it shows up.

Of course the mind bending cult Scientology has a place on the top table.

Once opened up the reasonable person sees it as being hilarious in its foundation and dismisses it as so much raving of an idiot. It is not. The foundations of “Thetans” and such is a load of codswallop. but the practices and the psychological manipulation and mind set development it employs are exceedingly powerful and effective.

Then a basket that contains any and all fundamental religions.

“Born again Christianity” being a good one to use to illustrate the rest.
Bigoted, blinkered, based on what they call faith but is actually delusional thinking, the intents of people in interfering with the development of the rest of mankind can be seen even here with the pro life anti stem cell and embryology research more fitted to the times in which Galileo lived. Let’s not even go near the “end times” Christian idiots. Dangerous fools one and all.

Not a complete list, but some to be chewing over.
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Islam has been growing in Europe because EU wants enough problems in order for them to introduce the solutions. Which we are seeing everyday with anti-terror this or that. It's not only the YooKey that's being flooded with immigration in order to damage national boundaries and culture.

Nazism? Well it was because of the Nazis that the EU began in the first place. So I take it you are happy with Germany's EU influence and the fact they and France started the whole thing?

Wasn't it Christians (Bliar) that signed more power away to the EU?

I take it you are happy with the elitists of Europe running Europe from a dodgy unelected commission where you or I have no say?
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Islam has been growing in Europe because EU wants enough problems in order for them to introduce the solutions. Which we are seeing everyday with anti-terror this or that. It's not only the YooKey that's being flooded with immigration in order to damage national boundaries and culture.
Oh come on, you surely don’t believe such rubbish do you?

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Nazism? Well it was because of the Nazis that the EU began in the first place. So I take it you are happy with Germany's EU influence and the fact they and France started the whole thing?
* NEWSFLASH*

WW2 ended over 60 years ago and saw the destruction of the German Nazi party!

Anyway it was because of hundreds of years of conflict between the European nations that the Common Market was established in order to remove many of the causes of conflict centered around economic disparities, WW2 was simply the last straw.

As for France initiating the establishment of what today is the EU, what does it matter who kicked it off? Or that Germany has significant influence? Germany is not our enemy nor is France and if because Germany has been far more successful in the post war years than Britain, so what?

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Wasn't it Christians (Bliar) that signed more power away to the EU?
What on earth has Blair’s oddball religious beliefs got to do with progressing Britain further into the EU? Actually the key point in Britain’s membership came under Thatcher’s period in office.

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I take it you are happy with the elitists of Europe running Europe from a dodgy unelected commission where you or I have no say?
I see many parallels between the European commission and our own Civil Service.

The EU is still very new as a Nation, soon it will become the United States of Europe, and then changes will come about that will see the government based on a similar model to that of the USA, and yes, I am happy at the prospect.

I am also happy at the prospect of England, Scotland, and Wales being states OF the U.S.E. not onmly because it is the least worst option but because it is the right way for our country to go.

The trick will be to establish political parties that have a watching brief to get the best deal for us as is possible and stop the silly “tilting at the windmill” of independence from Europe.

In other words, it’s time for a number of people to politically grow up.
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Islam has been growing in Europe because EU wants enough problems in order for them to introduce the solutions. Which we are seeing everyday with anti-terror this or that. It's not only the YooKey that's being flooded with immigration in order to damage national boundaries and culture.

Nazism? Well it was because of the Nazis that the EU began in the first place. So I take it you are happy with Germany's EU influence and the fact they and France started the whole thing?

Wasn't it Christians (Bliar) that signed more power away to the EU?

I take it you are happy with the elitists of Europe running Europe from a dodgy unelected commission where you or I have no say?

The highest level of the Nazi command was actually a Soviet spy, he was Martin Bormann. The EU was the ultimate goal, much like the UN and the League of Nations that went before it. The Soviets won WW2, you can see by the land grab that followed and Hitler was their puppet in order to distract people's attention.
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Oh come on, you surely don’t believe such rubbish do you?
What other excuse do they use to pass unjust laws, CCTV, ID-cards and even microchipping? Why go to war with Muslim countries and then allow Mosques to be built whilst 'some' radical Muslims preach for our death?



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* NEWSFLASH*

WW2 ended over 60 years ago and saw the destruction of the German Nazi party!

Anyway it was because of hundreds of years of conflict between the European nations that the Common Market was established in order to remove many of the causes of conflict centered around economic disparities, WW2 was simply the last straw.

As for France initiating the establishment of what today is the EU, what does it matter who kicked it off? Or that Germany has significant influence? Germany is not our enemy nor is France and if because Germany has been far more successful in the post war years than Britain, so what?
Many don't want to be forced into a union and by doing so is only harming relations. Whether it's political corruption and total media bias or full scale invasion, it's still not welcome. Not our fault Germany had it's Nazi problem, I don't see what gives them the right to correct everyone else. Lets not kid ourselves the EU isn't Germany-France dominated. The common-market was a good idea, the EU is not the same thing.


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What on earth has Blair’s oddball religious beliefs got to do with progressing Britain further into the EU? Actually the key point in Britain’s membership came under Thatcher’s period in office.
I thought it was Heath? Anyway, it was due to a number of self-serving politicians.

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In other words, it’s time for a number of people to politically grow up.
Or to see it all your way?
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The highest level of the Nazi command was actually a Soviet spy, he was Martin Bormann. The EU was the ultimate goal, much like the UN and the League of Nations that went before it. The Soviets won WW2, you can see by the land grab that followed and Hitler was their puppet in order to distract people's attention.
What a load of tosh.
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The highest level of the Nazi command was actually a Soviet spy, he was Martin Bormann. The EU was the ultimate goal, much like the UN and the League of Nations that went before it. The Soviets won WW2, you can see by the land grab that followed and Hitler was their puppet in order to distract people's attention.
Interesting, I will look him up.
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