Communist charities

HighlandFP · 25-03-2008, 05:24 PM

RE Your Green or Greenpiece, as I like to call them.

I found this ..............

Sea Shepherd - The Truth about Greenpeace and Whaling

The Truth about Greenpeace and Whaling

Commentary by Paul Watson
Founder and President of Sea Shepherd Conservation Society

Greenpeace does not even oppose whaling.

These are actual quotes from Greenpeace spokespersons:

“Greenpeace is not opposed to whaling in principle.”
– John Frizell, Director of Greenpeace International. From the Greenpeace Policy Paper 1994

"As a natural scientist I cannot accept that Greenpeace is opposed to whaling. One must be allowed to harvest a renewable resource. To me, this is an important principle."
– Leif Ryvarden, former Chairman of Greenpeace Norway. From an interview with Dagbladet, August 2, 1991

"The 1993 Minke whale harvest did not constitute a threat to the stock."
– Ingrid Bertinussen, Greenpeace Norway Director. From an interview on Norwegian radio (NRK), October 22, 1993

"The Norwegian catch is not a threat to the Minke whale stock,"
– Kalle Hesstvedt of Greenpeace Norway in a remarkable interview with the Norwegian newspaper, "Nordlys" on May 21. Hesstvedt does not rule out the possibility that Greenpeace might accept commercial whaling when catch quotas are allocated by the International Whaling Commission (IWC). He repeated the statement on Norwegian radio (NRK) on the same day.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

When I met my ex-wife [Sylvia, not recommended] she was a Greenpiece collector and I went round the doors with her. We must have collected
.......... oh zillions I cound do with today.
Funny ol' world, innit?

The Bear · 26-03-2008, 07:48 AM

The moment that you start to interfere with the population of any living thing you have to be prepared at some point to conduct a cull with just as much determination as you do a rescue.

bornfree · 26-03-2008, 09:16 AM

A lot of towns have empty shops and many charity shops around them. The people that would lease the shops and run them as a business, thus serving the local community, can't afford to do so because of crippling business taxes. The crippling business taxes indirectly help to support the charity shops, and ultimately, their political aims.
It's a great way of re-structuring the economic infrastructure for political gain. An entire class of people - shopkeepers, business people, entrepreneurs, risk-takers, that might have contributed to that infrastructure, are now unable to do so.
Stalin was too crude with his mass deportations of certain classes of people such as the independent-minded Kulaks, he should have just introduced a crippling business tax.

HighlandFP · 27-03-2008, 08:49 AM

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"A lot of towns have empty shops and many charity shops .........."

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Baron von Lotsov · 27-03-2008, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HighlandFP

"Oxfam with its palatial headquarters in a huge country house on the outskirts of Oxford, just stones throw from the uber establishment Oxford University. I did a bit of research on this one and I understand it gets tens of millions per year in government funding (your money again!) "

I too did a bit of research and called Oxfam
Oxfam GB :: Media contacts

Charming girl replied and said they have 2 buildings in Oxford - new ind. estate and old building on the "High? St." not palatial she said but palatial to me would be hot&C, inside toilets. [see Africa].

She tipped me off to phoning the Glasgow office {palatial?} Ileane,
0141 285 8859

So they don't even tell you the truth. There is a headquarters in Oxford and it is a huge country house and I zoomed in as far as I could go using the Microsoft Live system (similar to Google Earth) and that is what I saw. It is not very well advertised, you have to really dig to find it mentioned on the web but I did find a postcode where someone had inadvertently left it and this is how I found it.

Baron von Lotsov · 27-03-2008, 05:34 PM

The latest charity shop in our town to take over a private business, which used to be a video shop, is the Shaw Trust. Like all the others in prime locations on our high street the shop window looks very neat, you can tell all of these charities are loaded because unlike private businesses that are strapped for cash you see everything brand spanking new, all top notch shop fittings and the like just appear out of no where. Not much business seems to go on in these places and the amount of stuff for sale is very limited, almost as if the shop was not a shop. Compare to say some of the private shops where every smallest space is crammed with stuff for sale you would be forgiven for thinking that they sold nothing at all. A lot isn't even second-hand and I hear a lot of stuff donated to shops like these is just thrown away.

Anyway this is the first I have seen of this particular organisation and so I was looking at the website.
Facts about Shaw Trust

Can you see what is going on here? Is this really a charity to help the disabled or is it a wing of the government bordering on a quango kind of structure. Notice all the political correctness, these Common Purpose style organisations like to show a lot of black people and they like to talk about discrimination and even to a disabled person it can be rather condescending.

Our local arts centre a year ago was told that they would have to build disabled access into a building protected by some preservation order due to its historical ties. I knew the people running it and it was run on a shoestring. People who worked there did it for free but the cost of the building work was estimated to be about £10 000 and we would see someone in a wheelchair maybe every three months or so. It was never a problem, people would always be more than ready to give them a lift up the steps and they appreciated the welcome they got. But £10 000 could have caused the place to close and this is where charity crosses over the line into Communism by stealth. The Communist model is grant maintained arts centres but this one did not use grants since all the grant giving bodies wanted to buy political control.

So where does the Shaw Trust get its money from? Is it part of the £167 billion/year UK governmnet quango operation? It looks very 'on-message'.

prober · 27-03-2008, 10:51 PM

Wasnt Flashman head of a charity for assistance of fallen women ?

tito · 27-03-2008, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov

Well I suppose I have been slightly aware of charities and their political programmes for a long time and so I have been on the look out to see what their game is. Some seem to genuinely do some very good work and I have never seen anything remotely dodgy about the RSPCA despite knowing a fair bit through people around me having contact with them. The NSPCC I don't know a lot about but I would probably check it on account of the fact it deals with children and this is some area where a lot of trust is required, since it is so easy to brainwash children for political reasons and especially ones in troubled circumstances. Again I draw a blank with the British Heart Foundation but I'm not overly familiar with them.

On the other hand a charity that I view as highly suspicious is the Red Cross. They have shown their credentials on numerous occasions and the issue here is that they were trying their hardest to ban Christmas. Now this is very out of order and it went down like a lead balloon, so why on earth did they do that? Maybe it has something to do with the Communists who tried to stamp out religion since in Communism there is only one thing to worship and that is the state. The state replaces both the family and the church. There have been other serious issues with this charity as well in that it has been said that they have acted as spies for the military, since they claim neutrality in wars it's the perfect cover.

The NSPCC spends so much money on political campaigning. Remember the drive to ban smacking your own children? Look no further.

The RSPCA, similarly, might as well declare itself a political party!

ranter · 27-03-2008, 11:10 PM

To me a charity is one that is in the whole run by and serviced by volanteers,is not on the telly every five minuites asking for donations and receives no funding apart from the publics donations.They go about thier work in the most professional way, do not ask for or receive the reckognition they deserve.There is only one "charity "to whom I donate,that being to the most honourable and bravest of men,the RNLI

tito · 28-03-2008, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranter

To me a charity is one that is in the whole run by and serviced by volanteers,is not on the telly every five minuites asking for donations and receives no funding apart from the publics donations.They go about thier work in the most professional way, do not ask for or receive the reckognition they deserve.There is only one "charity "to whom I donate,that being to the most honourable and bravest of men,the RNLI

Hear hear! The RNLI are an incredible display of the best way to run such things. It would be such a mess if it was a government body.

25-03-2008, 05:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
HighlandFP Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ross-shire Highlands SCOTLAND Posts: 585 Party: Other	RE Your Green or Greenpiece, as I like to call them. I found this .............. Sea Shepherd - The Truth about Greenpeace and Whaling The Truth about Greenpeace and Whaling Commentary by Paul Watson Founder and President of Sea Shepherd Conservation Society Greenpeace does not even oppose whaling. These are actual quotes from Greenpeace spokespersons: “Greenpeace is not opposed to whaling in principle.” – John Frizell, Director of Greenpeace International. From the Greenpeace Policy Paper 1994 "As a natural scientist I cannot accept that Greenpeace is opposed to whaling. One must be allowed to harvest a renewable resource. To me, this is an important principle." – Leif Ryvarden, former Chairman of Greenpeace Norway. From an interview with Dagbladet, August 2, 1991 "The 1993 Minke whale harvest did not constitute a threat to the stock." – Ingrid Bertinussen, Greenpeace Norway Director. From an interview on Norwegian radio (NRK), October 22, 1993 "The Norwegian catch is not a threat to the Minke whale stock," – Kalle Hesstvedt of Greenpeace Norway in a remarkable interview with the Norwegian newspaper, "Nordlys" on May 21. Hesstvedt does not rule out the possibility that Greenpeace might accept commercial whaling when catch quotas are allocated by the International Whaling Commission (IWC). He repeated the statement on Norwegian radio (NRK) on the same day. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I met my ex-wife [Sylvia, not recommended] she was a Greenpiece collector and I went round the doors with her. We must have collected .......... oh zillions I cound do with today. Funny ol' world, innit? __________________ WARNING: By reading or downloading this post you may be committing an offence under some or all of these Terrorism Acts. http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/securit...m-and-the-law/ EU = Ein Volk ~ Ein Reich.

27-03-2008, 08:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
HighlandFP Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Ross-shire Highlands SCOTLAND Posts: 585 Party: Other	Yup Bear - australia rabbits china birds insects. "A lot of towns have empty shops and many charity shops .........." and BID SCAMS <<<< The National BIDs Advisory Service The National BIDs Advisory Service UKBIDs is committed to supporting robust and successful Business Improvement Districts (BIDs) in the United Kingdom. UKBIDs incorporates the National BIDs . Inverness BID - Home * Non UK BIDs (3) * UK BIDs (11) * Scottish Pilot BIDs (7) * Cleanliness (4) * Safety (5) Links to other BID websites within the UK. Inverness BID - Web Links Link Paddington Link London Bridge Link London Link Liverpool Link Lincoln Link Leamington Spa Link Cross River Partnership Link Kingston Link Hull Link Ealing Broadway Link Coventry __________________ WARNING: By reading or downloading this post you may be committing an offence under some or all of these Terrorism Acts. http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/securit...m-and-the-law/ EU = Ein Volk ~ Ein Reich.

27-03-2008, 05:34 PM	#16 (permalink)
Baron von Lotsov Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 829	The latest charity shop in our town to take over a private business, which used to be a video shop, is the Shaw Trust. Like all the others in prime locations on our high street the shop window looks very neat, you can tell all of these charities are loaded because unlike private businesses that are strapped for cash you see everything brand spanking new, all top notch shop fittings and the like just appear out of no where. Not much business seems to go on in these places and the amount of stuff for sale is very limited, almost as if the shop was not a shop. Compare to say some of the private shops where every smallest space is crammed with stuff for sale you would be forgiven for thinking that they sold nothing at all. A lot isn't even second-hand and I hear a lot of stuff donated to shops like these is just thrown away. Anyway this is the first I have seen of this particular organisation and so I was looking at the website. Facts about Shaw Trust Can you see what is going on here? Is this really a charity to help the disabled or is it a wing of the government bordering on a quango kind of structure. Notice all the political correctness, these Common Purpose style organisations like to show a lot of black people and they like to talk about discrimination and even to a disabled person it can be rather condescending. Our local arts centre a year ago was told that they would have to build disabled access into a building protected by some preservation order due to its historical ties. I knew the people running it and it was run on a shoestring. People who worked there did it for free but the cost of the building work was estimated to be about £10 000 and we would see someone in a wheelchair maybe every three months or so. It was never a problem, people would always be more than ready to give them a lift up the steps and they appreciated the welcome they got. But £10 000 could have caused the place to close and this is where charity crosses over the line into Communism by stealth. The Communist model is grant maintained arts centres but this one did not use grants since all the grant giving bodies wanted to buy political control. So where does the Shaw Trust get its money from? Is it part of the £167 billion/year UK governmnet quango operation? It looks very 'on-message'. __________________ "A government big enough to supply you with everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have..."

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26-03-2008, 07:48 AM	#12 (permalink)
The Bear Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 1,914	The moment that you start to interfere with the population of any living thing you have to be prepared at some point to conduct a cull with just as much determination as you do a rescue.

26-03-2008, 09:16 AM	#13 (permalink)
bornfree Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 69	A lot of towns have empty shops and many charity shops around them. The people that would lease the shops and run them as a business, thus serving the local community, can't afford to do so because of crippling business taxes. The crippling business taxes indirectly help to support the charity shops, and ultimately, their political aims. It's a great way of re-structuring the economic infrastructure for political gain. An entire class of people - shopkeepers, business people, entrepreneurs, risk-takers, that might have contributed to that infrastructure, are now unable to do so. Stalin was too crude with his mass deportations of certain classes of people such as the independent-minded Kulaks, he should have just introduced a crippling business tax.

27-03-2008, 10:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
prober Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 803	Wasnt Flashman head of a charity for assistance of fallen women ?

27-03-2008, 11:10 PM	#19 (permalink)
ranter Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: in a parralell universe Posts: 827	To me a charity is one that is in the whole run by and serviced by volanteers,is not on the telly every five minuites asking for donations and receives no funding apart from the publics donations.They go about thier work in the most professional way, do not ask for or receive the reckognition they deserve.There is only one "charity "to whom I donate,that being to the most honourable and bravest of men,the RNLI