White men may miss out under job plans

youcanhandlethetruth · 21-03-2008, 08:35 AM

"the only explanation is that the government are intent on increasing the numbers here from different cultures"

Got it in one !

And stopping getting possibly sued or taken to court under discriminatory grounds - i.e they are free to discriminate as much as they wish

Discrimination of any kind is never positive or "positive action".

Just another example of the government turning a negative change for the worse into a "positive".

Anyway whatever happened to ability ?

Baron von Lotsov · 23-03-2008, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tara

This latest form of blatant racism against white English men is outrageous, this was one of the talking points on The Write Stuff on C5 this morning, Yasmin Ali Ba Ba Brown was in agreement with this new proposal. Can't stand the woman, she's made a career out of her hatred for this country and its men. This could be a blessing in disguise though, working class white men have had the rug pulled from beneath them and now it's the turn of the middle classes, their reaction will be interesting.

Good point, I have had personal experience of organisations that have taken a nose dive due to positive (racist) discrimination. I protested against one of them last year with a scathing letter of complaint to their Head Office and had the woman in question sacked who thought she was untouchable. What she didn't realise was that I had a computer with quick access to their online customer charter and of course 3 brain cells.

Stalin attacked the middle classes as well. A lot of them were dumped in the sea.

Westcountryman · 02-04-2008, 01:09 AM

Don't know about anyone else, but I've raised the issue with my MP, describing it as blatant racism. I await their reply.

The Bear · 02-04-2008, 07:17 AM

There’s more ways to kill a cat than kicking it repeatedly up the backside.

So called “positive” discrimination is taking place here and now by the setting of employment targets.

The effect is that an employer is pretty well obliged to operate a racially selective recruitment policy or he will find himself in danger of being labelled as being “racist” if he doesn’t meet the racial profile that this awful government have decided is the correct one to meet.

Especially so in the case of public services.

All the Harman woman is doing is attempting to spread the same vileness thoroughly throughout the private sector, and spread it will because of various grants that are available to employers who take on people from “underprivileged” groups.

Guess where most people who would be positively discriminated in favour of would come from.

It would be like running an advert saying “only people who come with a grant for the employer considered for the post”.

This government really are the pits.

Millennium3 · 02-04-2008, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bear

There’s more ways to kill a cat than kicking it repeatedly up the backside.

So called “positive” discrimination is taking place here and now by the setting of employment targets.

The effect is that an employer is pretty well obliged to operate a racially selective recruitment policy or he will find himself in danger of being labelled as being “racist” if he doesn’t meet the racial profile that this awful government have decided is the correct one to meet.

Especially so in the case of public services.

All the Harman woman is doing is attempting to spread the same vileness thoroughly throughout the private sector, and spread it will because of various grants that are available to employers who take on people from “underprivileged” groups.

Guess where most people who would be positively discriminated in favour of would come from.

It would be like running an advert saying “only people who come with a grant for the employer considered for the post”.

This government really are the pits.

Every time I see jobs advertised in the public sector - the actor doing the job is invariably black.

Baron von Lotsov · 02-04-2008, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth

How can it be justified ?

Well we the British are the enemy of the state and the new world order so I would have thought it was totally justified.

They don't like people who can challenge them. Our district council was contemplating a huge planning application by a corporation. It was so obviously out of proportion to the rest of the town planning and one councillor described it as smoke with very carefully placed mirrors. When they came to vote most councillors were ready to reject it but the last person to have their say was the council's solicitor. She said that she did not think they would win an appeal and it would cost them £80 000 in legal bills.

This is why we have women in jobs like that; they are appeasers who won't put up a fight. My family hired a firm of solicitors in Mayfair to take on Sun Alliance once in a planning dispute over compulsory purchase and won. The difference though was the solicitor we had was a genius, I read a lot of the letters he sent them and it was full of complex and obscure case law woven together in such a way that it caused the firm nightmares. If one small family can take these people on and win then what is a district council doing? I'm thinking of writing to our local to expose this woman, she is a waste of space.

HighlandFP · 03-04-2008, 06:35 AM

Kosher and Halal Butchers Required.

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Originally Posted by The Bear

“only people who come with a grant for the employer considered for the post”.

Must have 15 years experience - no nig nogs - Welshmen\women -

APPLY HERE Jonathan Swift - A Modest Proposal

a swansong 4 europe · 03-04-2008, 10:11 PM

Will this mean a massive shortage of bed sheets and skin dye caused by hundreds of thousands of white males, expertly-or-not, re-inventing their identity to gain meaningful employment?

youcanhandlethetruth · 08-04-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Baron von Lotsov

They don't like people who can challenge them. Our district council was contemplating a huge planning application by a corporation. It was so obviously out of proportion to the rest of the town planning and one councillor described it as smoke with very carefully placed mirrors. When they came to vote most councillors were ready to reject it but the last person to have their say was the council's solicitor. She said that she did not think they would win an appeal and it would cost them £80 000 in legal bills.

This is why we have women in jobs like that; they are appeasers who won't put up a fight. My family hired a firm of solicitors in Mayfair to take on Sun Alliance once in a planning dispute over compulsory purchase and won. The difference though was the solicitor we had was a genius, I read a lot of the letters he sent them and it was full of complex and obscure case law woven together in such a way that it caused the firm nightmares. If one small family can take these people on and win then what is a district council doing? I'm thinking of writing to our local to expose this woman, she is a waste of space.

An interesting case Baron - thanks for sharing.

Do you mean local newspaper or local solicitor ? I think you should at least make people aware of this woman's advice - she may not be so quick to go with the flow if the local community put's her under pressure too.

By the way, I'm sure there are strong women who would be willing to fight too !

Anyway, good luck - I think you should look into it, even if you don't pursue it.

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youcanhandlethetruth Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,582	"the only explanation is that the government are intent on increasing the numbers here from different cultures" Got it in one ! And stopping getting possibly sued or taken to court under discriminatory grounds - i.e they are free to discriminate as much as they wish Discrimination of any kind is never positive or "positive action". Just another example of the government turning a negative change for the worse into a "positive". Anyway whatever happened to ability ? __________________ Before tyranny and television, "conspiracy theorists" never existed. cointelpro/halfwits(in order of Porkpies) Clippo,Wowbanger TIP,agni,Akria,Besoeker,Bear,Eurosceptic Antlantacist

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Westcountryman Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Westcountry. Posts: 5,922 Party: None	Don't know about anyone else, but I've raised the issue with my MP, describing it as blatant racism. I await their reply. __________________ Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

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a swansong 4 europe Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 411	Don't make me over Will this mean a massive shortage of bed sheets and skin dye caused by hundreds of thousands of white males, expertly-or-not, re-inventing their identity to gain meaningful employment?

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02-04-2008, 07:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
The Bear Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 2,178	There’s more ways to kill a cat than kicking it repeatedly up the backside. So called “positive” discrimination is taking place here and now by the setting of employment targets. The effect is that an employer is pretty well obliged to operate a racially selective recruitment policy or he will find himself in danger of being labelled as being “racist” if he doesn’t meet the racial profile that this awful government have decided is the correct one to meet. Especially so in the case of public services. All the Harman woman is doing is attempting to spread the same vileness thoroughly throughout the private sector, and spread it will because of various grants that are available to employers who take on people from “underprivileged” groups. Guess where most people who would be positively discriminated in favour of would come from. It would be like running an advert saying “only people who come with a grant for the employer considered for the post”. This government really are the pits.