"Writer's speech too Christian for Carol Service"

Britannist · 29-11-2007, 03:23 AM

Writer's speech 'too Christian' for carol service - Telegraph

rjt · 29-11-2007, 07:43 AM

A carol Service is a Christian Service how can the sepach be too Christian.

Westcountryman · 29-11-2007, 07:46 AM

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He (Stuart Mole, the director-general of the society) said it did not fit in with the overall theme of the readings, adding: "We also need to be mindful of the congregation, which will probably include quite a few drawn by the occasion and by the carols but who do not hold a deep (or even a shallow) faith."

So what?

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Yesterday Ms Odone said: "I think there is a tremendous move to down play this country's Christian heritage, to silence, ridicule and marginalise religious belief.

"They have shown precisely the kind of intolerance and disapproval of Christianity that I am talking about."

I couldn't agree more.

allanon · 29-11-2007, 09:00 AM

Perhaps she should be flogged.

eublues · 29-11-2007, 09:35 AM

Good piece on this on the Today programme this morning. Nonsense nicely exposed.

Little Englander (sour) · 29-11-2007, 04:43 PM

Is the eisteddfod too Welsh? Is Burns night too Scottish? Is a traditional ceilide band too Irish?
No
But a young white English girl gets turned away from a course application - too white and too English.
The point, of course, is that if they can take away your religion and your national identity in one country, why stop?

mkpdavies · 29-11-2007, 04:44 PM

I'm not Christian, but I am shoulder to shoulder with Christians on this (and probably quite a lot of other issues at the moment).

kernow · 29-11-2007, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I'm not Christian, but I am shoulder to shoulder with Christians on this (and probably quite a lot of other issues at the moment).

That at least makes two of us!

Britannist · 29-11-2007, 05:35 PM

Well - here we go again. The annual politically correct campaign against Christmas is about to begin.

Remember Birmingham City Council calling its Christmas festivities "Wintervil" (a ridiculous name which leaders of non-Christian religions in the city rightly condemned)?

Do you recall all those Health and Safety officials trying (last year and the year before) to ban Christmas trees from council premises on the grounds that the electric lights on the trees were (allegedly) not safe; the trees might fall down or someone may walk into one?

We need a national campaign to defend Christmas to be set up to put a stop to this politically correct anti-Christian and anti-religious nonsense.

Smidgey · 29-11-2007, 05:51 PM

I see absolutely no problem with a secular person celebrating Christmas - the festival has been around for around 2,500 years and it is most certainly a part of European culture.

A Christian can accept the religious value of Christmas - that's fine by me. A secular person can accept the cultural value of Christmas. Heck, even the pagan gets a look-in!

I would like to know what the religious beliefs are of those who want to destroy this ancient tradition.

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29-11-2007, 05:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	Politically correct, Christmas, Birmingham, "Wintervil", Health and Safety, trees Well - here we go again. The annual politically correct campaign against Christmas is about to begin. Remember Birmingham City Council calling its Christmas festivities "Wintervil" (a ridiculous name which leaders of non-Christian religions in the city rightly condemned)? Do you recall all those Health and Safety officials trying (last year and the year before) to ban Christmas trees from council premises on the grounds that the electric lights on the trees were (allegedly) not safe; the trees might fall down or someone may walk into one? We need a national campaign to defend Christmas to be set up to put a stop to this politically correct anti-Christian and anti-religious nonsense.

29-11-2007, 05:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Smidgey Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,225 Party: Libertarian Party	I see absolutely no problem with a secular person celebrating Christmas - the festival has been around for around 2,500 years and it is most certainly a part of European culture. A Christian can accept the religious value of Christmas - that's fine by me. A secular person can accept the cultural value of Christmas. Heck, even the pagan gets a look-in! I would like to know what the religious beliefs are of those who want to destroy this ancient tradition. __________________ How vain is man, who boasts in fight the valour of gigantic might! -Georg Friedrich Händel

29-11-2007, 09:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
allanon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 650	Perhaps she should be flogged.

29-11-2007, 09:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,129	Good piece on this on the Today programme this morning. Nonsense nicely exposed.

29-11-2007, 04:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
Little Englander (sour) Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Portsmouth Posts: 949 Party: English Democrats	Is the eisteddfod too Welsh? Is Burns night too Scottish? Is a traditional ceilide band too Irish? No But a young white English girl gets turned away from a course application - too white and too English. The point, of course, is that if they can take away your religion and your national identity in one country, why stop?

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