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George Galloway said on his Talk Sport show that he will be forming a protest outside the Oxford Union and is expecting thousands to turn out against Griffin and Irving being given a platform at the oxford union to voice their "fascist opinions". This mixed-up berk is constantly attacking Israel and then threatening to sue people who call him anti-semitic.
November 25, 2007 Oxford braced for protest over BNP -
Hundreds of protesters are expected to gather at Oxford University after students yesterday voted to allow BNP leader Nick Griffin to speak at their union. Controversial historian David Irving, who was jailed for Holocaust denial, has also been invited to the free speech event tomorrow.
Their presence on the list of speakers had already prompted a series of high-profile withdrawals from the platform, including Defence Secretary Des Browne.
Despite opposition, the Oxford Union Debating Society members voted by a margin of two-to-one to extend an invite to Griffin. Martin McCluskey, president of the Oxford Student Union, said it was "disgraceful" the pair were being given the same platform as past speakers who included Mother Theresa and the Dalai Lama.
Anti-fascist leaders, who were organising a demonstration at tomorrow's event, have claimed that some union members were excluded from the vote. Sabby Dhalu, secretary of campaign group Unite Against Fascism, said: "If the event goes ahead as it stands, it does not even have the appearance of a 'debate'. Oxford Union will have to hold itself responsible for any subsequent repercussions on the threats to the safety of students if it proceeds with this decision."
Lee Jasper, secretary of the National Assembly Against Racism, added: "Oxford Union is jeopardising the safety of the students by continuing with this event. It is not too late to rescind these invites. Oxford Union gathers growing condemnation with every moment it continues being complicit with facilitating a meeting promoting fascism and Holocaust denial."
The move was also opposed by the university's Muslim and Jewish societies.
Defending its decision, the Oxford Union Debating Society said it was important to give people of all views a platform. Luke Tryl, president of the society, said: "They will be speaking in the context of a forum in which there will be other speakers to challenge and attack their views in a head-to-head manner."
The university's newspaper, Cherwell, has quoted Duncan Money, a second-year student, as saying he received death threats after criticising fascist groups in an internet blog. He said: "My family has been threatened, my friends have been threatened and I've been threatened. Someone rang in the middle of the night and said they would cut my throat."
The Scotsman

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Westcountryman

Er, repurcussions? I'm sorry, there's no excuse for violence. What do groups like UAF have against freedom of speech exactly?

Unbelievable.

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Ea of Dune

If Galloway and his chums had any really balls they would be in there debating with Nick Griffin. Instead he has resorted to "Bullyboy Tactics".
Freedom of speech seems to be fine for those on the left, as long as you agree with those on the left.

Bloody joke really (and no I'm not a BNP supporter).

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Nail.
Head.

(Say what you see!)

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mkpdavies

Griffin is a lefty. Just not the brand of lefty that Gallofascist likes.

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... says someone who obviously judges left/right exclusively from the perspective of how libertarian a party is. But that still puts Griffin to the right of the Conservative party. Do you even know what distributionism is? Using a totalitarian scale (with totalitarianism the 'left' and liberty the 'right'), distributionism by avoiding state socialism and corporatist capitalism, is actually far to the right of you! But still, you never answer these posts of mine do you? You prefer to live in your confused world, in which you oppose corporatism for its role in the New World Order, but support it when it comes to economic theory. But then, it's easy to gloss over your own inconsistencies and just call people you don't like 'fascist'.

mkpdavies

If you can't understand that I don't support the abuse of power by any large organisation, then that's hardly my problem.

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If you can't understand the alternative, and have to use words without meaning, then you have a problem. How would you stop the corporations doing what they do? And how would it be different from how the BNP would do it? Disagree with them, hate them, whatever, but try to be honest. What is 'left wing' about them? Do you know what distributionism is, and do you consider it left wing, and if so, Why? And why do you so religiously avoid answering the words in front of the '?' symbol? And if you can't answer, you should keep your mouth shut instead of spouting the usual rubbish.

mkpdavies

Read back through the forum. I have stated many times that I think one of the roles of government is to regulate large business. Try to comprehend that I distrust all large organisations and put the liberty of the INDIVIDUAL at the top of my priorities.

The Nazi's won't stop at just the large corporations and will go way further than any reasonable, non authortarian non fascist organisation. They talk about control and regulation to the point of shutting up shop to many companies and nationalising anything they want to control.

Their desire to redistribute wealth, control and regulate and force individuals to do things their way. Utter leftists, but shunned by the rest of the left for being racists too. That doesn't fit the internationale principles of a left of wannabe commies.

Yes and yes.

Because stealing off of one person, to help fund another is a socialist concept.

I didn't realise I was under obligation to answer anything. I often ignore the ranting drunken tramps in the street. Think of it a bit like that. I tend to answer people who I have an ounce of respect for more consistantly.

Just for you though, seeing as you are clearly getting angry (which I am ashamed to say makes me happy), I'll go back and answer a few more for you.

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you never answer these posts of mine do you?

Lie, I do sometimes. When I can be arsed.

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