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Old 18-11-2007, 04:38 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I think school is a good place to teach kids what is truly bad for their health. Necking lots of alcohol is.

If parents choose to teach their kids at home, then that's fine by me too.

Schools are for one purpose and one purpose only and that is education. They need to learn maths, English, science and with that comes biological education. With a proper education the kids will know what alcohol does to the brain and the sensible ones will avoid too much of it. What I'm not in favour of is schools extending their role as educator to include what the parent's job is. That is everything else like general life issues. For example the so-called sex education is actually nothing of the sort and the state taking on the role of moral guider. Now we all know the state is one of the most immoral and insidious things of late so they simply cannot be trusted. I think they are trying to teach children about homosexuality being normal and they now do assemblies about global warming politics.

This is what I mean; we should not be asking the state to extend its role into social indoctrination. Many of these peoples come from the brainwashing of kids by mainstream pop 'culture'. If you have listened to some of the stuff the BBC puts out on Radio One then you can clearly see on the one hand they are creating this problem so that you the punter will ask for exactly what it is that they would like to do. This is why the school age is being raised to 18. The education will not get better, simply more time will be allocated to state parenting duties, as in school holiday clubs, breakfast clubs and all the rest of it. This is mainstream Communism essentially that says the children are the property of the state. The state creates the problem and then offers the solution. It's Hegelian and Hegel was one of the Marxists favourite philosophers.

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Here is a link for you concerning the above. It's written in Newspeak but I could offer a translation service if need be.

The Standards Site: Social and emotional aspects of learning... improving behaviour… improving learning
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What youth club on Perranporth beach? This is news to me, and I'm a resident. There's a surf club down there, if that's what you mean
That be the one. Looks like a youth club to me, since it's full of youths.

Point was, you guys down there have the beach, you have surfing if the kids want it. That's something to do. We have a dirty canal.
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It still all points to the fact to-days youth appear to want to be entertained rather than finding and making their own entertainment. When they're not entertained they moan that there is "nuffin to do" (so lets smash something up)!
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This issue is just going to be used by the government as an excuse to bang up the taxes on alcohol even though the vast majority of people drink sensibly.

I think the breweries and their marketing companies should bear some of the responsibility for this problem, for years they have been pushing hi-octane designer drinks, alcopops and shots flavoured to taste like chocolate, strawberry or some other sweet concoction, is it any wonder that kids are out of their face by nine o’clock.
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It still all points to the fact to-days youth appear to want to be entertained rather than finding and making their own entertainment. When they're not entertained they moan that there is "nuffin to do" (so lets smash something up)!
Having two teenage daughters I can assure you the vast majority of young people are nothing like this.
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If schools were totally private we would be able to see which types of education worked best. At the moment we only really have a limited understanding based on studies, which are not really as comprehensive as the actual experiment of different types of school could be.

We would find out for once and for all whether education or abstinence teaching was best when it comes to alcohol. We know (from U.S. examples) that comprehensive sex education causes less teenage pregnancy than in cases when no sex education or abstinence only education was taught (such as in theocratic Lubbock, Texas, where the teenage pregnancy rate is through the roof compared to Austin, Texas, where a comprehensive approach is taken).
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Having two teenage daughters I can assure you the vast majority of young people are nothing like this.
Having stopped being a teenager two years ago, I completely agree. I think it is a tiny minority of teenagers who do this (at least in my area).
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Most kids I meet are good. Infact, I get more concern out of kids for this country and the ways things are going, than my generation or the "traitor generations" before me, who got us into this position in the first place.

Anyone who was 18 or more in 1975, must be ashamed of their generation. I would guess you can discount most of the older generation at the time, who probably remembered what they fought for.
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Having two teenage daughters I can assure you the vast majority of young people are nothing like this.
So your opinion is that a tiny majority are bored with "nuffin " to do and that the vast majority keep themselves suitably entertained? If this is true them my village has been unfortunate in having more than it's fair share of bored youth!
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