Christmas should be 'downgraded' to help race relations says Labour think tank

youcanhandlethetruth · 04-11-2007, 09:26 PM

Whatever you think about religion, people should be free to choose their religion. Once the state steps in, they are simply interfering in people's fundamental rights. It should have nothing to do with government - it is not a league table !

It doesn't suprise me they have thought this up because they are determined to promote their agenda of "muticultaralism" and attacking christianity in this way helps them achieving their goal.
I am not against real multicultaralism at all, but it not a government that promotes any kind of worthwhile culture or freedom, it's more like a "no culture" policy but they always refer to "multiculturalism" and "globalism".

Wesley Lightly · 04-11-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth

Whatever you think about religion, people should be free to choose their religion. Once the state steps in, they are simply interfering in people\'s fundamental rights. It should have nothing to do with government - it is not a league table !

It doesn\'t suprise me they have thought this up because they are determined to promote their agenda of "muticultaralism" and attacking christianity in this way helps them achieving their goal.
I am not against real multicultaralism at all, but it not a government that promotes any kind of worthwhile culture or freedom, it\'s more like a "no culture" policy but they always refer to "multiculturalism" and "globalism".

Attacking Christianity is wrong YCHTT, what should be done is the same brouhaha about christmas kicked up for whatever celebrations they do.

22ANDUK · 05-11-2007, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Britannist

Yes, Labour and the EU have the same aim - an agnostic/atheist UK.

Campbell (the former assistant to Blair) allegedly once said of the Blair Government "We don't do religion."

They don't 'do' patriotism either. That much was clear long before Labour got in back in 1997.

I side on the atheist/agnostics too.

Though I accept that the UK has a Christian heritage, and culture, and people should be allowd to worship whatever they choose.

I however do not think an agnostic/atheist UK would be a bad thing.

rjt · 06-11-2007, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesley Lightly

Damn right they dont do religion. I would hate to see religion and the state re-united.

An Atheist state *IS* one of the many steps forward.

Religion and state are united the Queen is head of the Church of England and the PM advises of appointments for Archbishops and Bishops.

As for an athiest state well i think it will happen but whilst their is breath is my overwieght body I shall fight it because of the many benefits there are in the partnership between church and state.

kernow · 06-11-2007, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wesley Lightly

Damn right they dont do religion. I would hate to see religion and the state re-united.

An Atheist state *IS* one of the many steps forward.

I am against mixing Religion and Politics ( You only have to look at Muslim Countries to know why!) But I would not subscribe to an "Atheist" state either! For me Atheist state = Communism!

youcanhandlethetruth · 06-11-2007, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wesley Lightly

Attacking Christianity is wrong YCHTT, what should be done is the same brouhaha about christmas kicked up for whatever celebrations they do.

Yes I agree - attacking Christianity is wrong, but this is the EU/government policy now......

rjt · 07-11-2007, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth

Yes I agree - attacking Christianity is wrong, but this is the EU/government policy now......

This is the problem christians face as what they stand for is continually undermined and we are told we have to accpet things that Gods Teachings tell us are worng. I for one will not.

IceDragon · 07-11-2007, 04:30 PM

I wonder if Labour will ever suggest downgrading Ramadan?

...

Thought not, cowards!

g hall · 08-11-2007, 06:01 PM

Labour Think Tank is an oxymoron

08-11-2007, 06:01 PM	#29 (permalink)
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youcanhandlethetruth Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,582	Whatever you think about religion, people should be free to choose their religion. Once the state steps in, they are simply interfering in people's fundamental rights. It should have nothing to do with government - it is not a league table ! It doesn't suprise me they have thought this up because they are determined to promote their agenda of "muticultaralism" and attacking christianity in this way helps them achieving their goal. I am not against real multicultaralism at all, but it not a government that promotes any kind of worthwhile culture or freedom, it's more like a "no culture" policy but they always refer to "multiculturalism" and "globalism".

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IceDragon Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,048	I wonder if Labour will ever suggest downgrading Ramadan? ... Thought not, cowards!