Bring back the birch

harryaldridge · 03-09-2007, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rjt

Simply beating people or executing them achieves nothing. You have to tackle the cause of crime and anti-social behaviour.

I wonder what this man would say to the familys of people who were convicted of a crime that would in this new regime carry the death penalty only then to find years later that it was a miscarriage of justice.

Well, I would say that it would certainly make a difference. If the punishment is severe then the number of people willing to risk the crime is dramatically reduced. It is by no means the whole solution but it would be an improvement.

rjt · 03-09-2007, 08:00 AM

We are talking about physically attacking someone with a weapon and stringing them up I do not think either have a place in any civilised society.

Any party that advocates theses measures risks sounding rather shrill in my view and obscuring the rest of their message.

g hall · 03-09-2007, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ranter

Miscarriages of justice is always the argument against the death penalty.When we have children being shot on their way home from football practice I think its time we took that chance.

Until they legally murder YOU then what

rjt · 03-09-2007, 10:19 AM

I wonder what those who advocate the death penalty would sya to the realtives of a man/woman wrongly convicted.

Often I get told that as a Christian I should support the death penalty' eye fo an eye etc. So if someone in my family was wrongly executed who be killed in response, the judge, the jury, the police, the person who made the false complaint, a witness who got it worng.

I think the time has come for the hang em and flog em brigade to move aside and grow old gracefully, well as gracefully as they can. The issue of the death peanlty and the birch are non issues in this country and I hope they will stay that way.

kernow · 03-09-2007, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rjt

There has been little/ no effort to tackle the cause of crime just more and more gimmicks and tough talk.

Most crimes are committed because there is no fear of punishment if caught!
Since time immemorial some humans have had a criminal streak, regardless of their upbringing or background. These people look upon kindness as being soft! It takes some sort of **** house to knock an old lady over to steal her purse! In my book the only good criminal is a dead one!

Kevin Adamson · 03-09-2007, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by g hall

Until they legally murder YOU then what

I dont want to be legally murdered thanks,but am prepared to take the chance if it makes one idiot stop and think before he blows the head off a twelve year old.
If we cant protect our children there is no future for any of us

kernow · 03-09-2007, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rjt

I think the time has come for the hang em and flog em brigade to move aside and grow old gracefully, well as gracefully as they can. The issue of the death peanlty and the birch are non issues in this country and I hope they will stay that way.

This Countries present violent crime rate is totally down to the actions of "Liberal Thinkers" like yourself, being in power!

tito · 03-09-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kernow

This Countries present violent crime rate is totally down to the actions of "Liberal Thinkers" like yourself, being in power!

Nonsense. The crime rate is down to state responsibility, lack of work and education and poor policing.

kernow · 04-09-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tito

Nonsense. The crime rate is down to state responsibility, lack of work and education and poor policing.

Liberal thinking PC state , same thing! Also very,very poor policing! Unemployment is no excuse for crime!

Smidgey · 04-09-2007, 12:59 AM

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Most crimes are committed because there is no fear of punishment if caught!

Could you provide some data to support this claim please?

03-09-2007, 08:00 AM	#12 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,292	We are talking about physically attacking someone with a weapon and stringing them up I do not think either have a place in any civilised society. Any party that advocates theses measures risks sounding rather shrill in my view and obscuring the rest of their message. __________________ Mr Delors said that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the community, The Commission to be The Executive and The Council Of Ministers The Senate. NO! NO! NO! (Margaret Thatcher 30 Oct 1990) Ignore List: The Prophets of ST Al the Unelectable.

03-09-2007, 10:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,292	I wonder what those who advocate the death penalty would sya to the realtives of a man/woman wrongly convicted. Often I get told that as a Christian I should support the death penalty' eye fo an eye etc. So if someone in my family was wrongly executed who be killed in response, the judge, the jury, the police, the person who made the false complaint, a witness who got it worng. I think the time has come for the hang em and flog em brigade to move aside and grow old gracefully, well as gracefully as they can. The issue of the death peanlty and the birch are non issues in this country and I hope they will stay that way. __________________ Mr Delors said that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the community, The Commission to be The Executive and The Council Of Ministers The Senate. NO! NO! NO! (Margaret Thatcher 30 Oct 1990) Ignore List: The Prophets of ST Al the Unelectable.

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