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Old 07-06-2007, 10:04 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It's true that Brits make very good bad guys in films. Alex Cox (film director) once said something about this when he talked about the film "Manhunter" which had Brian Cox cast as Hannibal Lector. He said that when the Yanks want a really good, sinister bad guy they turn to the heavyweight Brits (or something like that).

Maybe it has something to do with this stifling politically correct society that has been forced upon us. Maybe it's the very fact that we're not allowed to express our true feelings that actors can so easily turn into the really sinister bad guy at the drop of a hat in front of the cameras - and all in the name of entertainment (and big bucks!).

It's also maybe true that we lap up films like the Hannibal Lector series because we can see a Brit (Brian Cox, Anthony Hopkins) playing that kind of character.

Anthony Horowitz is perfectly correct in saying what he did. I'm hard-pushed to find something modern to read that isn't full of political correctness. Mind you, I haven't come across a book yet with the heroine who happens to be black, lesbian, disabled and Muslim and a bad guy who is white, Anglo-Saxon Protestant, fit, healthy, good-looking, well-educated. I suspect there is one somewhere.
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Isn't that the epitome of a bad guy?
Sounds like some of our politicians...
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It always amuses me that in American sitcoms, the characters all mix on an interacial basis at home!
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You and I must be watching different American sitcoms.
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there appears to be an anti-British and/or anti-English element in the USA (and I don't mean Irish republicans).
Can you blame them? They must be sick of hearing how many Brits' hate the "Yanks"! Although the Brits' were quite happy that the "Yanks" were on our their side in two World Wars!
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there appears to be an anti-British and/or anti-English element in the USA (and I don't mean Irish republicans).
Can you blame them? They must be sick of hearing how many Brits' hate the "Yanks"! Although the Brits' were quite happy that the "Yanks" were on our their side in two World Wars!
Excuse me, but in both wars it took considerable effort to get the USA involved, and in both instances they were initially quite happy to sit on the sidelines. I also will remind you, that the sacrifices of Britain, the Commonwealth and the USSR during WWII far outweigh any American losses.
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Excuse me,
Of course I'll excuse you! I remember my art teacher who was in the Navy in WW2 saying to our class in 1955, " You'll hear in your lifetime a lot of people running the Americans down, but believe me without the aid of American men and materials the Allies would have lost the War."
Agreed Russia made a massive contribution to defeating the Germans and lost more people than any other nation, but they could not have won the war on their own. There would have been no D Day landings without the Americans, Britain couldn't have launched an attack across the Channel on that scale on their own!
"ModernUKIP", I don't know if you hate the "Yanks" or not! But give credit where credits due! "
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there appears to be an anti-British and/or anti-English element in the USA (and I don't mean Irish republicans).
....the Brits' were quite happy that the "Yanks" were on our their side in two World Wars!
Yes, if my facts are correct in the case of the last World War the Americans didn't exactly hurry to come to our aid (i.e. 1939 - 1941).
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Modern UKIP wrote: ... in both wars it took considerable effort to get the USA involved, and in both instances they were initially quite happy to sit on the sidelines.
The Americans also charged us interest on post-war loans - which we (the UK) only finished off paying a few months ago.
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The Americans kept out of WW2 because they were making a serious amount of money out of it.
Anything they put in up to 1941 they got paid for. Once they were in they were into their own money.
As you rightly said Brit, we made the final payment last October.
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The Americans kept out of WW2 because they were making a serious amount of money out of it.
Anything they put in up to 1941 they got paid for. Once they were in they were into their own money.
As you rightly said Brit, we made the final payment last October.
Thank you for your agreement Tony.

The Late Enoch Powell always said the Americans were out to destroy British worldwide influence and to end the British Empire so they (the Americans) could step into the void they helped create (a void as a result of the end of the British Empire).

Mr. Powell maintained that it was in the interests of the USA that the UK was put under severe pressure in World War II in both europe and the far-east - because a damaged UK and a weakened British Empire helped the USA move ahead of the UK in the years after the end of World War II.
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