Smidgey

With the creation of the Scottish parliament it is now perfect timing for the money drawing and useless Scotland office to be closed down. Not only does it absorb so much cash it is unnecessary and as today shows, problematic.

A 500 million carbon capture plant was going to be built by BP in Peterhead (near Aberdeen) and was going to create over 1000 jobs. Due to excessive government bureaucracy BP have pulled out of that project today. BP specifically cited Westminster bureaucracy, and we all know where that blame lies - right on the desk of Douglas Alexander.

Every party in the Scottish parliament was urging the Scotland office to issue the go ahead, to which the reply was that it would be given in a couple of months (from Douglas Alexander).

A perfect example of a useless bureaucracy costing all in the UK their tax pounds, costing the people of Peterhead a huge boost to their economy, not helping the Scottish economy - which as many of you know has been absolutely pathetic in the last 10-20 years - and a perfect example of too much bureaucracy hampering business and the free market.

Source:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...st/6685345.stm

I must point out, that as a libertarian, I have never felt stronger in my views. I am absolutely furious about this.

mkpdavies

1000 makejobs as far as I'm concerned. However, if a private company want to do that, then great (even if they do pass the costs on to the consumer).

The government getting in the way doesn't suprise me though. Maybe BP could be persuaded to create other jobs instead, like breaking rocks or transferfing water from one cup to another, over and over again.

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Smidgey

It was a hydrogen carbon capture plant which would put the UK ahead in this field.

Whether you agree with global warming or not is not the issue - the point is that oil and gas are going to run out and finding other ways of producing that energy (without resorting to thousands of ugly wind farms) is going to be a priority for energy companies. Remember, nuclear cannot replace oil and it can only replace gas to a certain degree.

That is why projects like these are necessary.

mkpdavies

Does capturing carbon produce energy then? I never knew that.

I was dumb enough to think spending the money on researching alternatives, when all along capturing carbon could solve our energy needs.

How does that work then? Any linkies.

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TonyG

Hmm, here's an uneducated guess.
They draw CO2 out of the atmosphere, release the oxygen and solidify the carbon.
Then they can burn the carbon in power stations so that they can release more CO2 which can be recaptured and burnt in power stations...

Sounds like a perpetual energy machine! A patent on that would be nice. 8)

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Smidgey

Read the BBC link I provided - it is a power plant. I have no idea how it works, but thats what they describe it as.

The point still stands:

1) Obsessive bureaucracy
2) Too much government fiddling in the market
3) Douglas Alexander should resign after ANOTHER folly
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4) We need something to replace oil and gas, whether global warming exists or not.

Alex McKee

Smidgey

Yes, I know what carbon capture is, but the BBC article specifically stated that it was a carbon capture power plant that would give Britain a foothold onto the hydrogen economy.

I don't have a clue how it works, but that is what I have read from the BBC. The important point is that bureaucracy has lost over a 1000 jobs that were not in the public sector...

gimlet

I would suspect that the 1000 jobs would be for the construction of the plant, however as the electricity price would be up to 60% more, is this really viable as a project?

Alex McKee

I was just providing a link to a quick overview for anyone unfamiliar with Carbon Capture, it wasn't aimed at anyone in particular.