In-car road pricing black box could cost each motorist £600

Britannist · 19-02-2007, 06:09 AM

Today's Telegraph reports that:

Motorists face a potential bill of more than £600 to fit a black box needed to make a full pay-as-you-drive road pricing system work, Whitehall documents have revealed.

A blueprint drawn up by the Department for Transport showed it could cost £62 billion to set up and £8.6 billion a year to run.

Every motorist could end up paying nearly £300 just to cover the expense of collecting the charge, according to the department's feasibility study.

There's more on this at:

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...9/nroads19.xml

mkpdavies · 19-02-2007, 07:45 AM

I'm not having one.

g hall · 19-02-2007, 10:16 AM

Is that with or without any taxes that Gordon the Moron will dream up to go on like extra special VAT or black box tax or tax on tax
Tax doesn't have to be taxing is the ad tax tax tax is the motto

mkpdavies · 19-02-2007, 10:22 AM

I will go to court if necessary and claim it is against my human rights, to be tracked and traced by a government that I don't trust.

John Carter · 19-02-2007, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britannist

A blueprint drawn up by the Department for Transport showed it could cost £62 billion to set up and £8.6 billion a year to run.

Every motorist could end up paying nearly £300 just to cover the expense of collecting the charge, according to the department's feasibility study.

I told ya they're letting the petition run because they'd already sussed that it's not feasible. Now they can say they're backing out because they listen to the people, rather than the real reason.

Besoeker · 19-02-2007, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Britannist

A blueprint drawn up by the Department for Transport showed it could cost £62 billion to set up and £8.6 billion a year to run.

If that £8.6 bn is a net cost (i.e. taking account of the money collected in the road charging scheme) it surely begs the question why don't they spend that money either improving the roads or improving public transport?

I'm totally against any road charging scheme.
Not for the reasons given by others - I couldn't give a toss who knows where I am in my car. With the number of surveillance cameras that abound now they probably already do in any case, and it hasn't made me paranoid nor scarred me for life.

No, my objection is much simpler. We are ALREADY being taxed out the ass for road use. It's called fuel duty. The more you use the road, the more you pay. To be asked to pay on top of that for basically the same thing would be totally iniquitous.

Sarumano · 19-02-2007, 11:26 PM

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Motorists face a potential bill of more than £600 to fit a black box

Not if nobody buys one.

nodigitsever · 19-02-2007, 11:44 PM

the Dole here I come

19-02-2007, 06:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 23,153	In-car road pricing black box could cost each motorist £600 Today's Telegraph reports that: Motorists face a potential bill of more than £600 to fit a black box needed to make a full pay-as-you-drive road pricing system work, Whitehall documents have revealed. A blueprint drawn up by the Department for Transport showed it could cost £62 billion to set up and £8.6 billion a year to run. Every motorist could end up paying nearly £300 just to cover the expense of collecting the charge, according to the department's feasibility study. There's more on this at: :arrow: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...9/nroads19.xml

19-02-2007, 07:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
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19-02-2007, 10:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: erewhon Posts: 5,935	Is that with or without any taxes that Gordon the Moron will dream up to go on like extra special VAT or black box tax or tax on tax Tax doesn't have to be taxing is the ad tax tax tax is the motto __________________ "That government is best which governs least." "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries". "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful." TANSTAAFL TANJ

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19-02-2007, 11:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
nodigitsever Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Great Britain (NOT UK) Posts: 91	the Dole here I come