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Old 14-02-2007, 11:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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The council would have to take it to Court if he doesn't pay.
Wouldn't that be for the non-payment of the fine he owed rather than the nature of what he was fined for?
Yes, but the defence will challenge the grounds for which the fine was given. The case will be laughed out of Court when the story is told.
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Old 14-02-2007, 08:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Wouldn't that be for the non-payment of the fine he owed rather than the nature of what he was fined for?
Yes, but the defence will challenge the grounds for which the fine was given. The case will be laughed out of Court when the story is told.
I think the lad would have had the option to pay the fine or give notice that he intended to appeal it. Then it would either be dropped or go through the courts. Simply doing nothing, not paying and waiting for a summons for non-payment isn't going win friends and influence people.

All of this is speculation of course. I don't what he has or hasn't done about the fine. But if he has taken the "do nothing" course, I wouldn't be sanguine about his chances of getting off.
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Wouldn't that be for the non-payment of the fine he owed rather than the nature of what he was fined for?
Yes, but the defence will challenge the grounds for which the fine was given. The case will be laughed out of Court when the story is told.
I think the lad would have had the option to pay the fine or give notice that he intended to appeal it. Then it would either be dropped or go through the courts. Simply doing nothing, not paying and waiting for a summons for non-payment isn't going win friends and influence people.

All of this is speculation of course. I don't what he has or hasn't done about the fine. But if he has taken the "do nothing" course, I wouldn't be sanguine about his chances of getting off.
As far as I am aware, with Council fines non-payment is your way of saying 'I will challenge it in Court'. After all, to comply with constitutional conditions, paying fines before going to Court is entirely voluntary, and cannot be forced upon you.
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As far as I am aware, with Council fines non-payment is your way of saying 'I will challenge it in Court'. After all, to comply with constitutional conditions, paying fines before going to Court is entirely voluntary, and cannot be forced upon you.
I think you are right about that.
http://www.leeds.gov.uk/files/2007/w...90beb408d0.pdf
Or he could pay.
Or he could appeal.
It would seem
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The fine was paid by someone else.
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The fine was paid by someone else.
Yes. And you did post that a while ago.
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I hate it when that happens. It means an injustice has happened and the perpetrators have gotten away with it. I'd want to take it to court and show what a farce it was. Then is might not happen again.
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I'd want to take it to caught.
Take it to caught?
Don't understand what you mean........
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Wouldn't that be for the non-payment of the fine he owed rather than the nature of what he was fined for?

well seeing as you cannot be fined BEFORE conviction in a Court of Law, how does that work?
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