If you drive a car, please read

John Carter · 09-02-2007, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

This is the sheeple vote in action. It has caught the imagination of the flock and I have recieved 8 chain mails trying to get me to sign this, all form non political people.

So, the chain mail got people visiting the site. You think that those people, looking for something to break their working day, would then look at a couple of other petitions, no?

Out of a million people only 10,000 Taffs visited? (St David's Day petiton). I know the 'net access in Taffyban land is a bit lacking, but those figures just don't add up.

Only half the old toffs who want fox hunting back support the armed forces? The numbers just aren't making any sense.

mkpdavies · 09-02-2007, 05:20 PM

I kind of agree with you, but I think it's more likely to be the lazy sheeple just getting fired up by the text of the chainmail, signing in a huff, then forgetting all about it.

They don't care what the reasons for this appearing are, just that it has.

Treat the symptoms, not the cause.

Whay fight for a mentality like this? Is Britain worth saving?

I sometimes wonder.

Popeye · 14-02-2007, 08:44 PM

What I don't understand is why the government thinks road pricing/congestion charges will make any significant difference to congestion unless they think that people drive on congested roads because they enjoy it and will somehow stop using their car/van/lorry if made to pay. What do they do instead? Walk? Take the bus? OK in London if you don't mind paying through the nose to go a couple of stops but not so easy if you live out in the sticks and don't live over the shop. And in places where there is no congestion there is no justification for congestion charges unless they come clean and admit it is just another tax. What's next - a housing tax to tackle the high price of housing (people will stop living in houses so prices will come down so they will be able to afford them again)? The problem is too many people in too small a space - even though we have less cars per 1,000 of the population than any other Western European country.

Sheila · 14-02-2007, 10:28 PM

Where I used to live for a while a couple of years ago there was an excellent, reliable bus service, always on time.

You could go into town at 8.30 a.m. and come back at around 2 p.m. On a Thursday. That was it. Regular as clockwork, come rain or shine, but only on a Thursday.

Local volunteers ran a car service to get elderly people to the doctor's surgery, but apart from that you just had to have a car.

09-02-2007, 05:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,059 Party: Libertarian Party	I kind of agree with you, but I think it's more likely to be the lazy sheeple just getting fired up by the text of the chainmail, signing in a huff, then forgetting all about it. They don't care what the reasons for this appearing are, just that it has. Treat the symptoms, not the cause. Whay fight for a mentality like this? Is Britain worth saving? I sometimes wonder. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

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14-02-2007, 08:44 PM	#13 (permalink)
Popeye Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 237	What I don't understand is why the government thinks road pricing/congestion charges will make any significant difference to congestion unless they think that people drive on congested roads because they enjoy it and will somehow stop using their car/van/lorry if made to pay. What do they do instead? Walk? Take the bus? OK in London if you don't mind paying through the nose to go a couple of stops but not so easy if you live out in the sticks and don't live over the shop. And in places where there is no congestion there is no justification for congestion charges unless they come clean and admit it is just another tax. What's next - a housing tax to tackle the high price of housing (people will stop living in houses so prices will come down so they will be able to afford them again)? The problem is too many people in too small a space - even though we have less cars per 1,000 of the population than any other Western European country.

14-02-2007, 10:28 PM	#14 (permalink)
Sheila Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 581	Where I used to live for a while a couple of years ago there was an excellent, reliable bus service, always on time. You could go into town at 8.30 a.m. and come back at around 2 p.m. On a Thursday. That was it. Regular as clockwork, come rain or shine, but only on a Thursday. Local volunteers ran a car service to get elderly people to the doctor's surgery, but apart from that you just had to have a car.