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mkpdavies · 29-01-2007, 03:33 PM

Because he is screaming at lots of people, trying to scare them into surrendering more freedoms.

Besoeker · 29-01-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Because he is screaming at lots of people, trying to scare them into surrendering more freedoms.

But if his view of global warming was correct, would he be right in trying to get people to change their lifestyle?

mkpdavies · 29-01-2007, 06:39 PM

Not by lying, misleading, omitting the full picture and expecting people to do the opposite of what he does, no.

He is a bad role model for the Greenies. He makes them look bad and does more damage than good.

Besoeker · 29-01-2007, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Not by lying, misleading, omitting the full picture and expecting people to do the opposite of what he does, no.

What did he lie about?
Give specific examples.

mkpdavies · 29-01-2007, 07:04 PM

O.K. No problemo, here is a few of his enviro lies, to add to the ones like him inventing the internet.

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Gore blames the recent increase in hurricanes on global warming. But Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center in Miami, says that warming has nothing to do with it. Tad Murty of the University of Ottawa noted that in the other six ocean basins worldwide, hurricane activity is flat or declining. Dr. Murty said also that hurricane activity in the U.S. southeast was greater in the first half of the 20th century than it is now.

Gore states guess work as fact, even when it is provably untrue. Liar.

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The ice caps in Greenland and Antarctica are growing, not melting as Mr. Gore claims, say Dr. Carter and M.R. Morgan of the University of Exeter in Britain. (Mr. Gore mentions melting on the coasts, but ignores the much larger buildup of ice in the interior.)

Gore convieniently ignores the full picture, to paint a vision of doom. Liar.

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The Canadian Arctic was warmer in the 1930s than it is today, said Roy Spencer of the University of Alabama at Huntsville. The polar bear population is stable or growing, not declining as Mr. Gore claims, said Mitchell Taylor of Canada’s Department of the Environment.

Ooops, another blatant scaremongering whopper from the liar.

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The ice cap on Mt. Kilimanjaro in Africa is melting not because of global warming, as Mr. Gore claims, but because of a decline in the moisture in the atmosphere there, said the Royal Meteorological Society in a 2004 article.

Ooops , never let the facts get in the way of a good fat lie.

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“None of the 30 so-called new diseases Gore references are attributable to global warming, none,” said Dr. Reiter.

Gore makes it up as he goes along. Ridiculous unfounded ********, spurted out as fact to scare the sheeple. What a liar.

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Mr. Gore claims the planet is warmer now than it has been for 2,000 years. The National Academy of Scientists doesn’t agree.

Ooops, Gore drops another porky.

Besoeker · 29-01-2007, 09:49 PM

mkpdavies

You have been about as selective with your quotes as Jack Kelly was. Plagiarism rules.

I could maybe post an alternative view on every one but I'm not sure the effort would be justified. So just the first few to illustrate my point:

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Gore blames the recent increase in hurricanes on global warming. But Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center in Miami, says that warming has nothing to do with it. Tad Murty of the University of Ottawa noted that in the other six ocean basins worldwide, hurricane activity is flat or declining. Dr. Murty said also that hurricane activity in the U.S. southeast was greater in the first half of the 20th century than it is now.

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However, scientists believe that global warming will result in more intense hurricanes, as increasing sea surface temperatures provide energy for storm intensification. An MIT study published recently in Nature provides the first data analysis indicating that tropical storms are indeed becoming more powerful over time.

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The ice caps in Greenland and Antarctica are growing, not melting as Mr. Gore claims, say Dr. Carter and M.R. Morgan of the University of Exeter in Britain. (Mr. Gore mentions melting on the coasts, but ignores the much larger buildup of ice in the interior.)

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A team of UK researchers claims to have new evidence that global warming is melting the ice in Antarctica faster than had previously been thought.
The Arctic climate varies naturally, but the researchers conclude that human-induced global warming is at least partially responsible.

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The Canadian Arctic was warmer in the 1930s than it is today, said Roy Spencer of the University of Alabama at Huntsville. The polar bear population is stable or growing, not declining as Mr. Gore claims, said Mitchell Taylor of Canada’s Department of the Environment.

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As the world's largest terrestrial carnivore, the polar bear is the king of the great white north. It might come as a surprise then that this majestic species faces an uncertain future: Climate change is causing the disappearance of sea ice from which polar bears hunt their prey. Research funded by WWF found that with less time on the ice to hunt for food and store it leaves polar bears hungry and hinders reproduction.

And that's starting off with the assumption that Al Gore said what you claimed he said.
The opinions he gives are clearly at odds with yours.
But that doesn't, of itself, automatically make him a liar. Or wrong. Nor you right.
I'm not claiming he is right on all or any of the points.
But if you want to call him a liar for stating opinion, then do so.

mkpdavies · 29-01-2007, 11:41 PM

No he actually lied.

You tell me to be specific then tell me I am being selective.

Make your friggin mind up.

Even if you want to pretend that some of the issues are "for debate", Gore doesn't ever say that. He states it as fact, because is a lying envirofascist.

You backing up your hero, puts you right in the same bracket.

John Carter · 30-01-2007, 12:50 AM

Matt, I hope you're not going to tell me that Gore lied about:

Besoeker · 30-01-2007, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

No he actually lied.

Remind me what you said about stating opinion as fact?

Tad Murty gives one an opinion. MIT gives a different opinion.
But Al Gore is a liar because agrees with the wrong one? C'mon........ :roll:

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

You backing up your hero, puts you right in the same bracket.

Not a hero of mine. You got that wrong as well. Perhaps you missed my comment:

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I'm not claiming he is right on all or any of the points.

And, just an observation.........
Jack Kelly's article that has been used by Eco-Imperialism just might not be the most objective of sources.

mkpdavies · 30-01-2007, 07:33 PM

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Remind me what you said about stating opinion as fact?

Fact as fact. He lied.

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Tad Murty gives one an opinion. MIT gives a different opinion.
But Al Gore is a liar because agrees with the wrong one? C'mon........

No, Gore stated it as a fact, when he knows it isn't. He lied.

29-01-2007, 03:33 PM	#11 (permalink)
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29-01-2007, 06:39 PM	#13 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,059 Party: Libertarian Party	Not by lying, misleading, omitting the full picture and expecting people to do the opposite of what he does, no. He is a bad role model for the Greenies. He makes them look bad and does more damage than good. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

29-01-2007, 11:41 PM	#17 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,059 Party: Libertarian Party	No he actually lied. You tell me to be specific then tell me I am being selective. Make your friggin mind up. Even if you want to pretend that some of the issues are "for debate", Gore doesn't ever say that. He states it as fact, because is a lying envirofascist. You backing up your hero, puts you right in the same bracket. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

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30-01-2007, 12:50 AM	#18 (permalink)
John Carter Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: On Sabbatical Posts: 5,110	Matt, I hope you're not going to tell me that Gore lied about: