Council investigates smokers in a private house

NickIrons · 09-01-2007, 01:31 PM

This really is taking the p**s!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/6244315.stm

g hall · 09-01-2007, 02:07 PM

Your surprised given the control freakry of this government

C_steam · 09-01-2007, 02:20 PM

Of course, if it was a crack house there would have been no investgation at all.............

rjt · 09-01-2007, 02:58 PM

its not often this happens but on this occasion, words fail me!

SGK · 09-01-2007, 04:12 PM

I suspect people have jumped to conclusions and not read this properly. The council is obliged to investigate a complaint. That's it. There hasn't been any judgement at all, which may well end up being that the complainant is out of order.

mkpdavies · 09-01-2007, 04:23 PM

Some things shouldn't get past the first phase of

Is this complaint ******* stupid or not?

Christina · 09-01-2007, 04:30 PM

Do they investigate nasty cooking smells like sprouts?

Lazyguy · 09-01-2007, 07:24 PM

Oh yes. It was hard wangling my way out of that one, let me tell you!

NickIrons · 09-01-2007, 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGK

I suspect people have jumped to conclusions and not read this properly. The council is obliged to investigate a complaint. That's it. There hasn't been any judgement at all, which may well end up being that the complainant is out of order.

Indeed they are obliged, and so they should
be, but surley common sense must prevail.

SGK · 09-01-2007, 09:31 PM

Hopefully it will, but it is clear in the report that they haven't done anything yet. The time to criticise is when they do something and it is wrong.
As far as this complaint not getting past the first phase of 'is this stupid?', well in order to answer that, you have to make a judgement. Without making any investigation at all, the judgement is based on assumptions. You assume that the complainant is wrong, the smokers within their rights. That may be completely correct, but you've dismissed out of hand the possibility that the complainants could have any grounds.

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Lazyguy Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 592	Oh yes. It was hard wangling my way out of that one, let me tell you! __________________ I STICK MY FINGERS IN MY EARS AND GO "LA LA LA LA LAA" WHEN THESE PEOPLE POST: PEOPLE WHO DON'T AGREE WITH ME PEOPLE I DON'T LIKE

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g hall Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: erewhon Posts: 5,935	Your surprised given the control freakry of this government

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C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,964	Of course, if it was a crack house there would have been no investgation at all.............

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rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,767 Party: Other	its not often this happens but on this occasion, words fail me!

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SGK Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,237	I suspect people have jumped to conclusions and not read this properly. The council is obliged to investigate a complaint. That's it. There hasn't been any judgement at all, which may well end up being that the complainant is out of order.

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Christina Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Eccleston, St Helens Posts: 1,529	Do they investigate nasty cooking smells like sprouts?

09-01-2007, 09:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
SGK Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,237	Hopefully it will, but it is clear in the report that they haven't done anything yet. The time to criticise is when they do something and it is wrong. As far as this complaint not getting past the first phase of 'is this stupid?', well in order to answer that, you have to make a judgement. Without making any investigation at all, the judgement is based on assumptions. You assume that the complainant is wrong, the smokers within their rights. That may be completely correct, but you've dismissed out of hand the possibility that the complainants could have any grounds.