Gallagher is a gobshite!

Aardvark · 21-11-2006, 12:17 PM

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21112006/34...ng-troops.html

Noel hits out at 'moaning' troops' Tuesday November 21, 11:07 AM

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Oasis star Noel Gallagher has told soldiers wounded in Iraq to stop moaning about it.

In an interview in The Sun the singer said Prime Minister Tony Blair's decision to go to war was an "almighty ****-up".

But he blasted troops who claim compensation for injuries suffered on the frontline.

"You get a million people walking through Hyde Park - 'Don't send the troops and all that'," he said.

"The troops want to go, all they want to do is fight! They're soldiers. They're loving it, until they get shot - then they're claiming compensation. If you're bothered about getting shot - here's a thing - don't join the Army."

In an interview to promote new greatest hits album Stop The Clocks, Gallagher also took a swipe at environmental campaigners.

"Greens are hippies with no place in the world. How do you suggest we get millions of Chinese not to have a fridge? Or get millions of Americans to stop using their big, stupid cars?" he said.

And he joked about the future for his six-year-old daughter, Anais.

"Our parents are horrified about the society we built for ourselves - drugs and sex and drink and rock'n'roll and television," he said.

"But to us that's normal. So we'll be horrified with what follows. By the time I'm on my deathbed my daughter, Anais, who's six, will be some mental, axe-wielding, cyber-punk lunatic. And I'll be horrified."

I've always hated the man and am vary glad I haven't bought his records, but the young men and women in Iraq who have played his music would be well advised not to pay any more money to support this Irish Republican Blairista.

Could all those who own Oasis works please bin them now! :roll:

SGK · 21-11-2006, 12:23 PM

I don't select my music based on the political views of the musician, that's not how it works, unless he is deliberately using the medium to get his message across (and provided it's done openly I can respect it even whilst not agreeing).
Are you going to investigate the political opinions of all bands from all of your cds? Authors of all your books? Political stances of all companies of every product you own? It could end up being quite expensive.

mkpdavies · 21-11-2006, 12:24 PM

Don't look back in anger.

Aardvark · 21-11-2006, 12:31 PM

Gallagher abuses his position.

As a folkie I have a lot of music by left-wing singers (even a Billy Bragg album that I won at a folk club), but a lot of them don't insult young servicemen who are not allowed to comment in reply. I suppose as an ex-serviceman myself I do react badly to such ignorant attacks. Even the Dubliners, who at least make no pretence of their Irish Republican sympathies, are more adult about such things.

SGK · 21-11-2006, 12:43 PM

I think maybe you have over-reacted. It's probably a little too close to home.
I have a couple of his albums and like his music, though it worked better at the time (c. 95-99) and isn't something I reach for regularly. The thing is everyone knows he is a gobshite, he's made it his trademark. I find him quite embarrassing really, but as I say, that isn't want music is all about really.
For the sake of debate, I actually get roughly what he's saying. I'm sure he could have said it better, nor is it as black and white as he makes out, but I don't think he is actually insulting servicemen.
Oh, and burn that Bragg CD :wink:

David Agnew · 21-11-2006, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aardvark

Even the Dubliners, who at least make no pretence of their Irish Republican sympathies, are more adult about such things.

Irish Republicanism seems to me to be horrible, evil, and murderous. Yet people still support (and finance) it without apparent embarrasement. Why is this. How can anybody in the British Isles be unaware of the nature of the beast? At least the Americans have the excuse of ignorance.

mkpdavies · 21-11-2006, 01:03 PM

I think he may be right with a small percentage of troops, but as always he makes the mistake of lumping everyone into the same bracket.

There are many reasons why people join the forces. My brother joined because it was the best opportunity to work on interesting aircraft and he wanted to do his bit for the nation. He is pretty much a pacifist other than that, so will always be best suited fixing things, rather than fighting.

Other people feel like they have no other job to go to. Others do it for the fellowship that these units create.

So he is an **** for painting the whole lot of them with the same brush. Effectively he is suggesting we shouldn't even have armed forces, which makes him a moron in my book.

kernow · 21-11-2006, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aardvark

(even a Billy Bragg album that I won at a folk club)

And you still have it? :shock:

SGK · 21-11-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by kernow

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Originally Posted by Aardvark

(even a Billy Bragg album that I won at a folk club)

And you still have it? :shock:

I assume that by 'won' he means he came last.

cookie65 · 21-11-2006, 03:46 PM

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I assume that by 'won' he means he came last.

No he won, Second prize was two BB Albums.

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,183 Party: Libertarian Party	I think he may be right with a small percentage of troops, but as always he makes the mistake of lumping everyone into the same bracket. There are many reasons why people join the forces. My brother joined because it was the best opportunity to work on interesting aircraft and he wanted to do his bit for the nation. He is pretty much a pacifist other than that, so will always be best suited fixing things, rather than fighting. Other people feel like they have no other job to go to. Others do it for the fellowship that these units create. So he is an **** for painting the whole lot of them with the same brush. Effectively he is suggesting we shouldn't even have armed forces, which makes him a moron in my book. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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21-11-2006, 12:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
SGK Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,237	I don't select my music based on the political views of the musician, that's not how it works, unless he is deliberately using the medium to get his message across (and provided it's done openly I can respect it even whilst not agreeing). Are you going to investigate the political opinions of all bands from all of your cds? Authors of all your books? Political stances of all companies of every product you own? It could end up being quite expensive.

21-11-2006, 12:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,987	Gallagher abuses his position. As a folkie I have a lot of music by left-wing singers (even a Billy Bragg album that I won at a folk club), but a lot of them don't insult young servicemen who are not allowed to comment in reply. I suppose as an ex-serviceman myself I do react badly to such ignorant attacks. Even the Dubliners, who at least make no pretence of their Irish Republican sympathies, are more adult about such things.

21-11-2006, 12:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
SGK Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,237	I think maybe you have over-reacted. It's probably a little too close to home. I have a couple of his albums and like his music, though it worked better at the time (c. 95-99) and isn't something I reach for regularly. The thing is everyone knows he is a gobshite, he's made it his trademark. I find him quite embarrassing really, but as I say, that isn't want music is all about really. For the sake of debate, I actually get roughly what he's saying. I'm sure he could have said it better, nor is it as black and white as he makes out, but I don't think he is actually insulting servicemen. Oh, and burn that Bragg CD :wink: