NHS carbon trading sees millions go up in smoke

jp · 05-11-2006, 02:13 PM

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Hospitals have lost nearly £6 million since a controversial Government scheme to cut carbon emissions was introduced.
The chaos caused to essential public services by Labour's participation in the European Union Emissions Trading Scheme is revealed in a series of emails and documents released under the Freedom of Information Act.
They show that hospitals have suffered a net loss of £5.8 million since the beginning of 2005. Campaigners say that this is the equivalent of employing 309 nurses.

The documents also show that the Department of Health has attempted to cover up the cost of the scheme under which public services and companies buy carbon credits to offset their emissions
When it was launched last year, carbon trading was trumpeted as a way to curb the damage big business does to the environment. But the oil company Shell has made £49.9 million selling its unused allocation and BP has made £43.1million, while public bodies are struggling to break even

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Words fail me

mkpdavies · 05-11-2006, 07:35 PM

This is what you get for making policy based on voodoo. It's just the start I am afraid.

harryaldridge · 06-11-2006, 09:07 AM

Emissions trading is a good and efficient market based system. The problme is that the allocations were not auctioned off, but in true EU style handed out. This meant that heavy polluters received greater allowances. Under an auction system all companies would have been hit equally and so the Oil companies would have been hit.

colin smith · 06-11-2006, 07:29 PM

Hi harryaldridge,
To talk about Carbon emissions trading is a euphuism for carrying on as normal. In other words, if one country is environmentally sensitive ,then WE can pollute as much as we like !!!
'nuff said.

Besoeker · 06-11-2006, 08:36 PM

Carbon emissions?
Anyone care to clarify exactly what than means?

colin smith · 12-11-2006, 03:42 PM

Hi Besoeker,
I think it is the fumes emitted from graphite and diamonds. Perhaps we should stop all women from wearing jewellery, just in case it is their fault the Planet is over-heating.

Besoeker · 13-11-2006, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by colin smith

Hi Besoeker,
I think it is the fumes emitted from graphite and diamonds. Perhaps we should stop all women from wearing jewellery, just in case it is their fault the Planet is over-heating.

And ban pencils too...a huge danger to our planet.
lol

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06-11-2006, 09:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
harryaldridge Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Sussex Posts: 1,912	Emissions trading is a good and efficient market based system. The problme is that the allocations were not auctioned off, but in true EU style handed out. This meant that heavy polluters received greater allowances. Under an auction system all companies would have been hit equally and so the Oil companies would have been hit.

06-11-2006, 07:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
colin smith Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 181	Hi harryaldridge, To talk about Carbon emissions trading is a euphuism for carrying on as normal. In other words, if one country is environmentally sensitive ,then WE can pollute as much as we like !!! 'nuff said.

06-11-2006, 08:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Besoeker Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 5,015	Carbon emissions? Anyone care to clarify exactly what than means?

12-11-2006, 03:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
colin smith Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 181	Hi Besoeker, I think it is the fumes emitted from graphite and diamonds. Perhaps we should stop all women from wearing jewellery, just in case it is their fault the Planet is over-heating.