Besoeker

Puting put fires, yes.
Taking action to prevent them in the first place has to be condoned, don't you think ?

John Carter

Did the floats need smoke alarms fitting or something?

blondy

Fire prevention activities are normal parts of the job. Checking smoke detectors, conducting inspections, handing out leaflets with helpful information. These are done as part of their normal routines and duties.

They don't have to like or approve of the lifestyles or choices of the citizens. Theirs is to serve a particular civic function.

Would then the gays have a right to stop paying their taxes because they were being exempted from the same civil services?

blondy

You go where there is a greater concentration of people to increase the effectiveness of your efforts and to help save more lives and property with the same amount of time, manpower and resources.

John Carter

Right. So they can leaflet the gays when they go to the mall, like they would with the rest of society.

blondy

And I'm sure the firemen go there as well.

Look at all the companies and politicians and organizations who see the gay community as humans or as numbers or as buying power or as voters and without making value judgments as to their sexual activities.

Treat them JUST as you would straights. No more. No less.

And no, I am not gay. I have never had a gay experience and am not curious about it and do not want to try it. I do not believe in gay "marriage" but I do believe in partners having the opportunity to certain benefits owing to their commitment if it is proven.

But my personal sexual orientation has nothing to do with my belief that we should be INCLUSIVE of our fellow man where possible.

What is the up side to treating gays like second class citizens?

Show me how that benefits anyone beyond making the majority feel 'better?' That's like feeling better that one was 'lucky' enough to have been born in the USA.

We had NOTHING to do with it. We were just lucky.

kernow

Homosexuals are born not made and I'm glad I wasn't born a homosexual. Just thinking about having sex with another male I find absolutely abhorrent, but I don't consider homosexuals lesser mortals because they are homosexual, I just do not wish to "celebrate" their homosexuality. Sex is fundamentally for procreation the fact that we might enjoy the act is a bonus. Same sex may well be enjoyed but it is against nature and I don't care how much the pro homosexual lobby 'big it up', it is not natural!

John Carter

Exactly.

And since the firemen ain't expected to leaflet straight pride events, they shouldn't be expected to leaflet gay pride events.

Let them leaflet the malls, where everyone (gay, straight, white, black, yellow, brown, short, tall, fat, skinny) gets equal coverage.

mkpdavies

I bet those same fireman ane't even allowed a picture of scantily clad woman in their building, but they are expected to go and mix in amongst a load of scantily clad men.

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blondy

And should we assume your computer was out of order almost every week for the past 20 or so years (somewhere or another around the world) when there were policemen and firemen and paramedics and military representatives who passed out leaflets or marched or had displays or some formal representation at parades, festivals, marches, parties, meetings, concerts or other events without a homosexual theme?

Double standard, John.

If you were blindfolded and told to go where there were the largest concentrations of citizens to 'paper' with leaflets you wouldn't care what their sexual orientation was. And as long as their actions and the event itself were/was legal you would paper them.

And that is what your sense of fairness will eventually decide, I'm sure.