Scotland Yard Investigating 70 Terror Plots!

blondy · 06-07-2006, 10:42 PM

UK: Terror plots accelerating, warns police chief

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July 04, 2006

Here's a rarity of rarities: a mainstream media story about terror plots that actually uses the word "Muslim," rather than just speaking about vague "extremists," "youths," "Asians," or "males."

"Terror plots accelerating, warns police chief," from the Telegraph, with thanks to Sr. Soph:

Anti-terrorist police are tackling an "accelerating" number of plots by violent Muslim Jihadi extremists, according to Britain's most senior counter-terrorism officer.

Scotland Yard anti-terrorism branch is involved in an "unprecedented" 70 investigations, Peter Clarke the head of the Metropolitan Police Anti-Terrorist Branch and national co-ordinator for anti-terrorist investigations, warned yesterday. More than 60 people are facing trial on terrorist allegations. Two-thirds of those have been charged since last July.

In one of the most sombre and detailed statements yet on the threat to Britain from Islamic extremist terrorists, Mr Clarke, who is heading the inquiry into last year's July 7 bombings said the intelligence picture includes some "sinister" threats. "There are some 60 individuals awaiting trial in the UK for terrorist-related offences. This is unprecedented and the flow of new cases shows no sign of abating - if anything it is accelerating," he said.

"Some of the cases relate to individuals; some to networks. Even more alarming than the gravity of the allegations are two other factors: that the majority relate to the activities of British citizens against their fellow countrymen; and the extreme youth of some of those charged."...

Mr Clarke said that the picture of radicalisation of Muslim youths in the UK was "very diffuse and diverse".

He said there were features which led to a sense of grievance and alienation but the involvement of troops in Iraq did not appear to have a greater effect than others. Anti-terrorist officers have frequently noted that those under investigation had links to "Jihadi campaigns" in Afghanistan and elsewhere.

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http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/012086.php

Intbel · 06-07-2006, 11:45 PM

That's what we are told.

I wonder what is the truth?

mkpdavies · 06-07-2006, 11:51 PM

I'm surprised it isn't more after we attacked Iraq.

Intbel · 06-07-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I'm surprised it isn't more after we attacked Iraq.

This debacle is not going to go away for many years, is it?
Nothing is being resolvd and there seems to be no serious attempt to find a way to end this thing.

But then, war being so profitable - why end it?
After all, what's a few lives lost every day compared to the daily material profit?

It is so very important for those who have to have more than it is for those who have not to have anything at all.

John Carter · 06-07-2006, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I'm surprised it isn't more after we attacked Iraq.

So, the question has to be: Did the Iraq thing create these people, or did it simply activate them?

I'll go with the latter.

Intbel · 07-07-2006, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by John Carter

So, the question has to be: Did the Iraq thing create these people, or did it simply activate them?
I'll go with the latter.

I reckon we'd be activated pretty good if we were invaded, occupied and murdered in our thousands for no good reason, wouldn't you?

John Carter · 07-07-2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Intbel

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Originally Posted by John Carter

So, the question has to be: Did the Iraq thing create these people, or did it simply activate them?
I'll go with the latter.

I reckon we'd be activated pretty good if we were invaded, occupied and murdered in our thousands for no good reason, wouldn't you?

And which one of the 7/7 perps was invaded, occupied and murdered?

This merely illustrates that there's a huge fifth column which is more loyal to another country/region than it is to here (even though they were born here).

You're angry at the war. Do you feel the need to go blowing up innocent people on the tube because of that? No, because your loyalties lie here, not with some sense of brotherhood with people a few thousand miles away.

You cannot activate something which isn't there already. And it's here alright - we've been letting it in for decades.

mkpdavies · 07-07-2006, 12:12 AM

I think all humans are capable of being "activated" into doing all kinds of things. Some pople have lower trigger points than others.

I know there are certain things that would drive most people to do terrible acts.

Intbel · 07-07-2006, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by John Carter

You're angry at the war. Do you feel the need to go blowing up innocent people on the tube because of that? No, because your loyalties lie here, not with some sense of brotherhood with people a few thousand miles away.

Don't bet on it ...

John Carter · 07-07-2006, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I think all humans are capable of being "activated" into doing all kinds of things. Some pople have lower trigger points than others.

I know there are certain things that would drive most people to do terrible acts.

Nowt to do with trigger points - it's to do with loyalties.

Can you imagine a second generation Aussie (born here) deciding to bomb a bunch of local civilians because we were at war with New Zealand?
Because that's essentially what we're talking about.

I'll make it clear: There's at least* 400,000 people in this country who have no loyalty to it and think it's perfectly OK to suicide bomb innocent British people. That's a pretty big fifth column.

(* the ones who admitted it)

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 32,059 Party: Libertarian Party	I think all humans are capable of being "activated" into doing all kinds of things. Some pople have lower trigger points than others. I know there are certain things that would drive most people to do terrible acts. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Lib Dems

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