let's hope they haven't got this one wrong!

C_steam · 09-03-2006, 12:29 PM

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Schoolboy wears stab-proof vest
A schoolboy wore a stab-proof vest beneath his uniform after being threatened. The boy, 16, is believed to have worn it on his journey to and from the Lammas School in Leyton, east London.

A police officer was made aware of a pupil wearing "what was believed to be a stab-proof vest", said a spokesman for Scotland Yard.

He added that in consultation with the school "the officer told the pupil to remove the vest".

Can you imagine the furore if said child now does get stabbed?

I wonder on what grounds the officer can 'tell' the pupil to remove it?
http://<br /> http://news.bbc.co.uk...on/4788930.stm

gfnewman · 09-03-2006, 02:45 PM

If the legal system was such that it prevented crime then there would be no need to go around in fear of being a victim of crime. This story would suggest that it is now a crime to protect oneself from potential crime. But if you don't protect yourself who will do it?

Politicians, judges, lawyers, barristers and the police will tell you that "the law" will protect you. Tell that to the murder victim ... if you can. A life gone forever whilst the taker of that life is set free to continue their lives.

I can understand the fears of the teenager. He lives in an area, it appears, where carrying knives, bullying and truancy are common-place. In an area in which there is no protection from the law. For anyone to want to protect themselves from that environment is natural survival.

The police would do well to make an example of the people carrying knives and bullying and playing truant than to pick on someone who fears for their life because of it.

John Carter · 09-03-2006, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by gfnewman

This story would suggest that it is now a crime to protect oneself from potential crime.

It's been that way for at least the last ten years.

David Holland · 20-03-2006, 09:56 AM

Here is the correct url
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4788930.stm

How can the police tell someone not to wear this ? If he was covering his face to avoid ccctv I could understand it (like Muslim women cover their face).

IceDragon · 23-03-2006, 07:39 PM

The police would not do anything if he was stabbed, it's no wonder people have to go about carrying guns and knives for protection, I would if I lived in a "diverse" part of a large city.

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David Holland Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London Posts: 1,319	Here is the correct url http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4788930.stm How can the police tell someone not to wear this ? If he was covering his face to avoid ccctv I could understand it (like Muslim women cover their face). __________________ More people + no new homes = housing shortage.

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09-03-2006, 02:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
gfnewman Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bristol Posts: 69	If the legal system was such that it prevented crime then there would be no need to go around in fear of being a victim of crime. This story would suggest that it is now a crime to protect oneself from potential crime. But if you don't protect yourself who will do it? Politicians, judges, lawyers, barristers and the police will tell you that "the law" will protect you. Tell that to the murder victim ... if you can. A life gone forever whilst the taker of that life is set free to continue their lives. I can understand the fears of the teenager. He lives in an area, it appears, where carrying knives, bullying and truancy are common-place. In an area in which there is no protection from the law. For anyone to want to protect themselves from that environment is natural survival. The police would do well to make an example of the people carrying knives and bullying and playing truant than to pick on someone who fears for their life because of it.

23-03-2006, 07:39 PM	#5 (permalink)
IceDragon Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,048	The police would not do anything if he was stabbed, it's no wonder people have to go about carrying guns and knives for protection, I would if I lived in a "diverse" part of a large city.