BAA BAA RAINBOW SHEEP

rjt · 07-03-2006, 10:09 AM

Several papers giving this story promiance today.

The above is being subsitituted for black sheep which it is felt may cause offence.

Offence to who?

Find me a black person offended by this song.
Find me a Muslim offended by piggybanks
Find me someone from another faith who is offended by Christmas Carols, Christmas Lights.

Sorry I will stop ranting now!

chikrodah · 07-03-2006, 11:09 AM

My kids always preferred the Les Barker version anyway, which goes: "Baa, baa, black sheep have you any wool? 'Course I bl**dy have, I'm a sheep!"

Westcountryman · 07-03-2006, 12:36 PM

Ridiculous. I can't believe they butchered Humpty Dumpty too. It's beyond a joke. :evil:

The Government says it's a matter 'to be decided locally' while nurseries saying it's because of 'equality of opportunity guidelines' set by...the Government!

What angers me most is the fact that the nursery rhyme is not intended to be offensive and I WISH that people would take the time to research the history INTO phpbb_something before deciding that it is 'not acceptable' and changing/banning it!

Link: http://women.timesonline.co.uk/artic...073043,00.html

rjt · 07-03-2006, 12:48 PM

But who does it offend? I have never met anyone offended by this nursery rhyme.

This is not equal opportunites this is just unneccesary interference. I wonder how much money these people are paid to sit in an office and dream up these biazare pronouncements all in the name of equal opps.

No wonder when I did equal opps training a couple of years ago the trainers who were very reasnoble people who would have agreed with this thread we treated with total contemp by most of my colleagues.

Tom Collier · 07-03-2006, 03:37 PM

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I can't believe they butchered Humpty Dumpty too. It's beyond a joke.

What again? Poor Humpty.

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The Government says it's a matter 'to be decided locally' while nurseries saying it's because of 'equality of opportunity guidelines' set by...the Government

!

So nursary rhymes are a "local issue"! That`ll kick start the council elections. But wait a minute. Some people say its a central government decision (okay, not a decision, but something that requires guidelines).

Thanks for that MT. I just lost the will to live.

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But who does it offend? I have never met anyone offended by this nursery rhyme

Indeed, these things are usually a myth but here it is an "incase it offends" pre emptive move.

Sheila · 15-03-2006, 09:45 PM

From Private Eye today

Under the headline BAA HUMBUG – I have edited this down a bit – it says:

Quote:

This tale – wherein a politically correct administrator insists that children remove all references that could be considered racist from “Baa Baa Black Sheep” – first surfaced in February 1986 . . . in the Daily Star and the Sun . . . which said that children at Hackney play groups had been banned from singing the rhyme. It was not true then either.

Neither was it true in October of that year (Daily Mail – Haringey), nor in 1987, when Islington Council went to court to stop an SDP party political broadcast which falsely claimed they had imposed a ban: nor in 2000 when various papers relocated it to Birmingham and nor in 2005 when the Mail on Sunday moved it all the way up to Aberdeen.

For the record, the charity Parents and Children together, which runs the two play groups at the centre of last week’s outbreak, told the Press Association that “children at the two family centres sing a variety of descriptive words in the nursery rhyme to turn the song INTO phpbb_an action rhyme. They sing happy, sad, bouncing, hopping, pink, blue, black and white sheep, etc. This encourages the children to extend their vocabulary.” Curiously, this explanation went unreported by any of the national papers.

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NickIrons · 20-11-2006, 04:06 PM

I think it should be changed..
Alomg the lines..
Baa baa black sheep have you any wool,
No sir, I'm off to the abbatoir to be sliced
up into best end and mutton chops!!!!!

C_steam · 20-11-2006, 06:14 PM

Baa baa black sheep have you any wool,
No sir, I'm off to the halal butchers to be hung upside down and have my throat cut......

Besoeker · 20-11-2006, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheila

From Private Eye today

Under the headline BAA HUMBUG – I have edited this down a bit – it says:

Quote:

This tale – wherein a politically correct administrator insists that children remove all references that could be considered racist from “Baa Baa Black Sheep” – first surfaced in February 1986 . . . in the Daily Star and the Sun . . . which said that children at Hackney play groups had been banned from singing the rhyme. It was not true then either.

Neither was it true in October of that year (Daily Mail – Haringey), nor in 1987, when Islington Council went to court to stop an SDP party political broadcast which falsely claimed they had imposed a ban: nor in 2000 when various papers relocated it to Birmingham and nor in 2005 when the Mail on Sunday moved it all the way up to Aberdeen.

For the record, the charity Parents and Children together, which runs the two play groups at the centre of last week’s outbreak, told the Press Association that “children at the two family centres sing a variety of descriptive words in the nursery rhyme to turn the song INTO phpbb_an action rhyme. They sing happy, sad, bouncing, hopping, pink, blue, black and white sheep, etc. This encourages the children to extend their vocabulary.” Curiously, this explanation went unreported by any of the national papers.

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Common sense prevails.............excellent.

prober · 21-11-2006, 10:38 AM

What happened to satire & happy poking fun on TV ?

I have an original version of the 3 Gollys in Bahasa Malay with happy black faces. Any offers /

07-03-2006, 10:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,476	BAA BAA RAINBOW SHEEP Several papers giving this story promiance today. The above is being subsitituted for black sheep which it is felt may cause offence. Offence to who? Find me a black person offended by this song. Find me a Muslim offended by piggybanks Find me someone from another faith who is offended by Christmas Carols, Christmas Lights. Sorry I will stop ranting now!

07-03-2006, 12:36 PM	#3 (permalink)
Westcountryman Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Westcountry. Posts: 5,922 Party: None	Ridiculous. I can't believe they butchered Humpty Dumpty too. It's beyond a joke. :evil: The Government says it's a matter 'to be decided locally' while nurseries saying it's because of 'equality of opportunity guidelines' set by...the Government! What angers me most is the fact that the nursery rhyme is not intended to be offensive and I WISH that people would take the time to research the history INTO phpbb_something before deciding that it is 'not acceptable' and changing/banning it! Link: http://women.timesonline.co.uk/artic...073043,00.html __________________ Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

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07-03-2006, 11:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
chikrodah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,710	My kids always preferred the Les Barker version anyway, which goes: "Baa, baa, black sheep have you any wool? 'Course I bl**dy have, I'm a sheep!"

07-03-2006, 12:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,476	But who does it offend? I have never met anyone offended by this nursery rhyme. This is not equal opportunites this is just unneccesary interference. I wonder how much money these people are paid to sit in an office and dream up these biazare pronouncements all in the name of equal opps. No wonder when I did equal opps training a couple of years ago the trainers who were very reasnoble people who would have agreed with this thread we treated with total contemp by most of my colleagues.

20-11-2006, 04:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
NickIrons Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bienne, Switzerland Posts: 494	I think it should be changed.. Alomg the lines.. Baa baa black sheep have you any wool, No sir, I'm off to the abbatoir to be sliced up into best end and mutton chops!!!!!

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C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,788	Baa baa black sheep have you any wool, No sir, I'm off to the halal butchers to be hung upside down and have my throat cut......

21-11-2006, 10:38 AM	#10 (permalink)
prober Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 854	What happened to satire & happy poking fun on TV ? I have an original version of the 3 Gollys in Bahasa Malay with happy black faces. Any offers /