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Old 23-01-2006, 10:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Today I read the following letter in the Metro and, although I don't agree, it was mildly interesting to see the immigrants view, so I thought I would quickly type it out here:

I have lived in this country for a few years and it never ceases to amaze me how obsessed the British are with calling each other racist at every opportunity. Take, for example, the furore over whether the public is 'racist' in its voting on Big Brother (Metro, Fri).

I find this issue particularly saddening because the root cause of inequality here is not race but economics. In Britain you have a more disgusting gap between rich and poor than in any other country I have ever visited and it is almost impossible to survive here unless your life revolves around making money. It is obvious that middle-class liberals rule this place and that, by deflecting attention from class to race, they have craftily avoided any meaningful social changes.

The bourgeois liberal attitude seems to be that the white working classes are a bunch of fascists and, while it is true that support for the BNP is on the rise, this is beacuse the working classes have had socialism and the Labour Party taken from them.

Money-obsessed conservatism and its twin brother, self-righteous liberalism, are not good enough for the poor - of all races - passionate people with much to be rightly resentful about. As long as socialism is kept down and political correctness upheld, as long as the British poor are ignored and dismissed, they will remain resentful, confused and, yes, sometimes - racist. What do you have to say to that?


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Old 23-01-2006, 10:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I don't believe in taxing successful people and giving the spoils to the poor.

As a Conservative, I believe in helping ALL people in Britain to succeed. I believe in a meritocracy, where people should succeed according to their ability.

I also believe, that the Government should be doing more to help people who are working, especially people who struggle to afford even the most basic commodities in life. It is my firm belief that people who work for a living instead of just living on state handouts (This does not include people who are unable to work) deserve help from the Government. Whether this comes from tax cuts, or raising tax thresholds to help those worst off.
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Old 23-01-2006, 10:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Britain you have a more disgusting gap between rich and poor than in any other country I have ever visited
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Some fair points mixed in with utter drivel, which ruin the overall argument.

Call me suspicious, but I also doubt the writers credentials. I smell more than a hint of troll about his writings.
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Some fair points mixed in with utter drivel, which ruin the overall argument.

Call me suspicious, but I also doubt the writers credentials. I smell more than a hint of troll about his writings.

In one, I suspect!

A curates egg of a letter - but oddly egged arguments can sometimes break the mindset.

I will muse about this on my way to work today.

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True, so very very true. White working class people are the only people it is 'politically correct' to mock nowadays. We even have a new word for them, 'Chavs'. Since World War Two the traditional white working class have gradually been changed from the salt of the earth to the scum of the earth. This was done by the left. The reason is because the nasty horrid trashy white working class kept doing the wrong thing and voting Tory ! Obviously they were experiencing what our Marxist 'friends' refer to as false consciousness. Our Marxist 'friends', as wounded as a man who has just been bitten by his own previously loyal dog, were hurt by this and decided to destroy the white working class by any means possible. They saw what Uncle Joe had done to the kulaks in Siberia and Ukraine, but unfortunately for them they did not have a police state with absolute power of arrest, imprisonment and summarary execution. Nor could they casually starve about 25 million people to death, much as they may have wished it for the enemies of the class strugle. One of the chosen methods for destroy the political power of the working class was mass immigration, sold to the employers as cheap labour. They also knocked down the old working class housing, and replaced them with skyscrapers and the like. This had the benefit of fracturing traditional working class communities, with the extra bonus of most immigrants voting for left wing parties. (IE Labour) So the Bollinger Bolsheviks and Champagne Socialists got their way, and the destruction of the political power of the old white working class was assured.
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Again, true. Okay, like the Kulaks the old working class were never much in favour of Socialism, the ingrates kept voting Tory. But with Labour now 'Tory - Lite' under Bliar, control of our borders given over to the EU, and a Liebour policy of open door immigration means traditional working class voters have no qualms about voting for parties like the BNP. Or they don't bother voting. When you know your 'leaders' don't give a s*** about you, actively hate your traditional leanings as 'racist' and seek to destroy your political and economic power, why should you trouble yourself to vote for them at all ?

There is a huge opportunity here for UKIP. If we could get say a quarter or more of the votes of the current vote abstainers we would be well on our way to our first MPs.
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This chap has clearly never been to China or India or Brazil.
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I agree with PHAT BOY PHAT, And as regards working for a living, when you live in an area That only survives on EUROPEAN handouts, and is given to their supporters, This is a way of getting rid of people who do not agree with their policies, and guarantees support for that party, bought with our own taxes, YOU EITHER WORK FOR THE EU, OR THEY MAKE SURE YOU DONT WORK AT ALL :twisted:
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