Oliver

Scotty, the fact that you loved GS the opera and want to tell us speaks volumes about you. cant wait until you lose interest again.

scotgirl

wow such a wave of bad feeling, cheer up its almost Christmas

what exactly does liking the jerry springer operera say about the person

rjt

In response to why I objected to it when I had not seen it the answer is that I did some research INTO phpbb_the program and in my view the content was offensive to me as a Christain.

Cyburn

Oh great, what next, Lets ban Father Ted in case in offends the Irish and Catholics

Christina

Father Ted (one of my fave comedies) would indeed be banned if every sentence contained the strongest swear words, as did Jerry Springer - The Opera, for 2 hours.

Swearing can make a point, when done rarely, but a person who swears every sentence will not have a good reputation and will come across as very boring and lacking in verbal skills.

A non-religious criticism is that it is offensive to Art, in that it was a desecration of an art form, the Opera. Imagine if a classical concert was played, and the ochestra shouted 'f***' every few seconds. That's not a new and imaginative way of doing things, it is what unruly teenagers do.

The bit about Jesus should be understood by fellow Christians, in that it wasn't actually Jesus they were depicting, but an hallucination of Jesus and others that was going on in Jerry Springer's mind after being shot. Still offensive, but headlines about it being about Jesus were not accurate, it was about an hallucination which contained an imagined Jesus.

We all have the right to form ourselves a group and complain to strores about the things they are selling and say we will not shop there anymore if they do not co-operate. This is not censorship, it is group protest.

The DVD is available elsewhere, and people could form a group demanding those stores change their minds and sell the DVDs if they want.

scotgirl

they have done already check the media media watch site

firstly before it came on and during there was warning messages about content

2ndly it was after the watershed,

and thirdly not every sentace contained a swear word,

how many times on this forum have i heard nanny state this , nanny state that , yes its alright to be nanny state when its something you want

on another point, do you really want the BBC firing out nothing but bland or do you want them exploring other avenues as well

and most televisions nowadays come with a handly little object called a remote control which means if you dont want to watch something you dont have to

and as yet nobody has answered my question

Christina

It has nothing to do with Nanny State and everything to do with Liberal Democracy. Protest is allowed, and sometimes protest works, sometimes it does not.

You are protesting against the right of Christians to protest. You are a persecutor of a religious minority and want to take away their right to protest against something they do not like.

Take the 'liberal' out of Lib Dem because you want to impose your values on me and others and not allow us to protest. (Liberal Fascism)

Take the Democrat out of Lib Dem because you want to deny the right to protest on this issue.

I did watch the programme and I have never protested against it, but by goodness I will stick up for those who do against those who want to take away their Liberal Democratic rights.

extra ordinary

:arrow: I am a Christian and I am offended by a TV often, I can take it usually, I like to see films etc that have excitement but I just feel sad that public sevice broadcasting is reduced to the lowest level. I feel the best thing wouId be for the BBC to edit and amend items, to set a moral example, to reduce the F word and reduce violence, leave the satelite channels to sink ever down the chain of trash tv - sorry I am widening the debate here.
freedom of expression is important but so is the subtle, discreet filtering of excess violence and sex in television
restriction here is surely desirable and not the same as the political freedom/pc augument
I want my son to love his country and be a good person,how do nasty programs help secure this?
I do not like constant bad language used and accepted in society as it now is today.

scotgirl

christian voice didnt just protest they wanted to ban the public from making an infomed choice on what they want to watch

this group was trying to remove my freedom of choice of what to watch and dictating to the country what they should and shouldnt be allowed to watch ,

protest i can deal with - putting personal details of employees on thier website and blackmailing a cancer charity I have more diffulty with

Christina

You couldn't watch 'I spit on your grave' either. Should we ask for a nice comedy Opera showing a dream where Eve rubs Mohammed's penis, as JSTO depicted Eve rubbing Jesus' penis?

Would you think that a good thing?

If Muslims complained about it would you say the same as you do against Christians? Would you insist that it be shown despite protests from Muslims?

I don't think much of Christian Voice, it isn't my kind of Christianity, I think it fringe and rather nutty.

I don't believe any programme as offensive to religion as JSTO should be shown on the BBC. Channel 4 okay, but not the BBC because we have to pay for it. We have no choice not to watch the BBC and not to pay for it. We can refuse to watch C4 without paying, or cable channels by not subscribing.

No choice with the BBC, therefore it is a different case from commercial television.