WHY WERE WE TOLD TO STOP KISSING

mkpdavies · 27-10-2005, 05:29 AM

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A TONGUE-tied couple are demanding answers after a security guard ordered them to stop snogging on the estate.

Joerg Thieme, 29, of Mudchute, and Wayne Richards, 34, of north London, were kissing over coffee in Starbuck's Cabot Place store on Thursday, October 20, at around 8pm when the guard intervened.

I would guess that a man and woman would be asked to stop snogging in a coffee shop too. If the shop doesn't want that behaviour in it's store, then that's up to them. Their human rights are they can get the **** out and do it somewhere else.

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``I think it's impossible within the EU to tell someone to stop kissing because they are gay.''

Where did anyone say it had anything to do with being gay?

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Their friend Ian Gurnhill, of Fulham, said: ``If you get two heterosexual couples kissing nobody would bat an eyelid

Yes you would in a coffee shop. It's not the done thing. People are trying to eat their sausage rolls and drink their coffee.

Sounds like chip on shoulder syndrome to me.

Aardvark · 27-10-2005, 01:57 PM

I suspect that lots of businesses have no passionate kissing rules regardless of sexual orientation. The odd peck on arrival or departure or over the champagne and oysters is normally okay, but as pointed out, it is the owners of private businesses who should make their own rules. It goes for smoking as well - I won't eat in cafes or restaurants that allow smoking, but accept it in bars where there is no food. That's my choice; it shouldn't be up to the nanny state to make laws for such things. It's not about human rights or anything like that. Like a lot of people I would leave a cafe or restaurant that had people doing heavy petting at the next table. The management of a lot of establishments know that they would lose business so don't allow certain things that put off their particular clientele.

arden forester · 28-10-2005, 09:00 AM

Unless I am mistaken the Sexual Offences Act is only concerned with consenting adults in private. Public displays of homosexual activity are still illegal, or put another way not legalised. The difficulty here is, that whatever we do as a country regarding social behaviour legislation, we a stuck with human rights legislation from the EU. Whether or not we mind homosexual activity in public seems not to matter. We now appear to have no choice. Happy camping! :wink:

SGK · 28-10-2005, 10:45 AM

I really don't see how snogging anybody in public is a human right. Would that apply if I was to start tonguing an alsation in Burger King?

smooveOp · 28-10-2005, 10:49 AM

Well SGK, I suppose that depends on what she looked like.

I've been to Alsace and some Alsaciennes are real babes - I can tell you!

:wink:

kernow · 28-10-2005, 12:44 PM

As an heterosexual male I don't like to see heterosexual couples "eating face" in public, I can't think of anything much more repulsive than seeing two 'blokes' doing the same. So what about my human rights having to put up with it.

SGK · 28-10-2005, 01:13 PM

'I have the right to do what I want, you have the right to go elsewhere', or 'I have the right to choose, you have the choice to stay or leave'. Now, where have I heard that argument before?.....

komerad · 28-10-2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by arden forester

Unless I am mistaken the Sexual Offences Act is only concerned with consenting adults in private. Public displays of homosexual activity are still illegal, or put another way not legalised.
The difficulty here is, that whatever we do as a country regarding social behaviour legislation, we a stuck with human rights legislation from the EU.
Whether or not we mind homosexual activity in public seems not to matter. We now appear to have no choice. Happy camping! :wink:

Sorry AF- Made a b***s of this posting. Going senile :roll:

arden forester · 28-10-2005, 02:37 PM

komerad I don't understand the comment! Lost on me. :? The law, as I understand it, applies only to consenting adults in private and the only between two people. If I'm wrong then let me know! You seem to be implying you do know something else!

My point about human rights laws is that they appear to override anything we do in this country on social matters. Where's the senility in all this, or have I lost your plot as well!?! :shock:

SGK · 28-10-2005, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by arden forester

My point about human rights laws is that they appear to override anything we do in this country on social matters. Where's the senility in all this, or have I lost your plot as well!?! :shock:

Hmm, possibly! From what I see on this thread, pretty much everyone is in agreement.

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27-10-2005, 01:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Aardvark Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Oxonia Posts: 3,973	I suspect that lots of businesses have no passionate kissing rules regardless of sexual orientation. The odd peck on arrival or departure or over the champagne and oysters is normally okay, but as pointed out, it is the owners of private businesses who should make their own rules. It goes for smoking as well - I won't eat in cafes or restaurants that allow smoking, but accept it in bars where there is no food. That's my choice; it shouldn't be up to the nanny state to make laws for such things. It's not about human rights or anything like that. Like a lot of people I would leave a cafe or restaurant that had people doing heavy petting at the next table. The management of a lot of establishments know that they would lose business so don't allow certain things that put off their particular clientele.

28-10-2005, 09:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,678 Party: None	Unless I am mistaken the Sexual Offences Act is only concerned with consenting adults in private. Public displays of homosexual activity are still illegal, or put another way not legalised. The difficulty here is, that whatever we do as a country regarding social behaviour legislation, we a stuck with human rights legislation from the EU. Whether or not we mind homosexual activity in public seems not to matter. We now appear to have no choice. Happy camping! :wink:

28-10-2005, 10:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
SGK Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,237	I really don't see how snogging anybody in public is a human right. Would that apply if I was to start tonguing an alsation in Burger King?

28-10-2005, 10:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
smooveOp Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Middlesex Posts: 571	Well SGK, I suppose that depends on what she looked like. I've been to Alsace and some Alsaciennes are real babes - I can tell you! :wink:

28-10-2005, 12:44 PM	#6 (permalink)
kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,182	As an heterosexual male I don't like to see heterosexual couples "eating face" in public, I can't think of anything much more repulsive than seeing two 'blokes' doing the same. So what about my human rights having to put up with it.

28-10-2005, 01:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
SGK Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,237	'I have the right to do what I want, you have the right to go elsewhere', or 'I have the right to choose, you have the choice to stay or leave'. Now, where have I heard that argument before?.....

28-10-2005, 02:37 PM	#9 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,678 Party: None	komerad I don't understand the comment! Lost on me. :? The law, as I understand it, applies only to consenting adults in private and the only between two people. If I'm wrong then let me know! You seem to be implying you do know something else! My point about human rights laws is that they appear to override anything we do in this country on social matters. Where's the senility in all this, or have I lost your plot as well!?! :shock: