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    Quote Originally Posted by John in Scotland View Post
    There are big issues that need to be addressed with regard to mass migration - but things have not yet reached crisis point.
    Many in London and the South East would disagree.

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    If I was out of work at the moment and competing with recent immigrants for jobs, or was in work on low pay, I would be at personal crisis point.

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    BBC NEWS | Politics | UKIP wanting immigration 'freeze'

    UKIP wanting immigration 'freeze'

    The UK Independence Party (UKIP) would halt all immigration to the UK for five years if it won a general election.
    The proposal has been contained in a policy review, prepared ahead of the party's annual conference in London.
    Leader Nigel Farage will tell delegates on Friday that public services cannot cope with growing numbers of migrants.
    UKIP has now created 17 groups to consider its policies and said it would publish its ideas in full on a daily basis if an election was called.
    Its main policy is a commitment to remove the UK from the European Union.
    But Mr Farage is expected to say that migrants, particularly those arriving from Eastern Europe, have been placing too great a strain on public services.
    For this reason, the five-year ban would be introduced, and this would stay in place until "proper controls" on people entering the country had been implemented.

    'Arrest and removal'
    UKIP would "put in place border controls so that all non-UK nationals who enter the UK can be registered and tracked on their entry and exit from the country".
    "Anyone overstaying their visa will be subject to arrest and removal from the country and will incur a ban on further entry to the UK for a minimum of five years," the party added. UKIP believes that anybody who wishes to come to the UK must be able to speak fluent English and have educational qualifications. They must also demonstrate loyalty to the UK and be able to support themselves and their family without help from the taxpayer, it claims.
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    I was thinking about the immigration policy some more and looked at these two sections:
    The party says work permits should continue to be issued to companies requiring employees to work in the UK throughout this moratorium period.
    Work permits will only be granted to workers who have a job and accommodation waiting for them, and who can financially support themselves or who will be accommodated or financially supported by their employer.
    It looks as though UKIP is still making it very easy for Polish workers to come over here as long as they have an attic to sleep in. Since UKIP doesn't propose any limits on the number of such workers to be allowed in, will this in fact have any impact at all? It might make it harder for people to come to Britain looking for casual work, but that can easily be circumvented by businesses importing the labour to contract out, or even just work agencies making the arrangements.

    Let's hope that UKIP has some solid numbers in the policy document which will be launched during the conference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher View Post
    UKIP would "put in place border controls so that all non-UK nationals who enter the UK can be registered and tracked on their entry and exit from the country".
    I bet the British Tourism Board are thrilled with that one. "London or Pyongyang next summer, Kurt?" "Mm, it's a close call, Helga".

    This is getting us into bonkers territory. It doesn't seem to have been properly thought out and it's scary;

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    Quote Originally Posted by James Haintalf View Post
    I bet the British Tourism Board are thrilled with that one. "London or Pyongyang next summer, Kurt?" "Mm, it's a close call, Helga".

    This is getting us into bonkers territory. It doesn't seem to have been properly thought out and it's scary;
    What are you talking about? To suggest that the UK under UKIP will track every visitor in perpetuity is ludicrous beyond belief. It obviously means checking who comes in and who goes out. Pure simple, sensible and essential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
    It obviously means checking who comes in and who goes out.
    And that's probably how they'd put it in Pyongyang as well. You learn well, Kim Ind-Uk.

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    ITV Teletext are reporting the UKIP call for immigration to the UK to be halted for five years (I notice that the europhile BBC's Ceefax service is not):

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    Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
    What are you talking about? To suggest that the UK under UKIP will track every visitor in perpetuity is ludicrous beyond belief.
    Actually, what is ludicrous is you saying that I suggested that the UK under UKIP will track every visitor in perpetuity. Where did I say "in perpetuity"? I merely quoted the policy statement, which used the word "track" to describe the treatment of non-UK nationals visiting the UK.

    Quote Originally Posted by Independent UKIP View Post
    It obviously means checking who comes in and who goes out.
    Oh, that's what "track" means, is it? Well, let's have a look...

    track –verb (used with object)
    To follow or pursue the track, traces, or footprints of; to follow (a track, course, etc.); to observe or monitor the course or path of; to observe or follow the course of progress of; keep track of.

    Let's see now... "to tick off someone on a register"? Nope, can't see that definition anywhere. Funny, that.

    It's simply not good enough to say "oh, but we all know what they mean". This is a party that the present leader promised to professionalise upon taking office, and we have actually put out a policy statement which literally says a UKIP government will follow, or monitor, or pursue all non-nationals, therefore including innocent tourists, upon their entry into the country.

    That is why I said it smacked of something which hadn't been thought out properly. Maybe you are satisfied with that state of affairs, but I am not.

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