Thread: Should UKIP oppose Sharia law in the UK/EU?

In another topic called 'What replaces multi-culturism?', http://www.ukipforum.co.uk/viewtopic...ghlight=#56228, here on the Policy Ideas section, Aardvark wrote:

'Oddly it is quite conceivable that there will be a push towards an Islamic state within a state in the not too distant future. The Muslim Parliament (unelected) has spokesmen who are calling for the application of Sharia law to Muslims in Britain - effectively seeking to run a parallel state within a state. They are duplicated in other EU countries by similar bodies. It is conceivable that they might likewise call for Sharia Law for all Muslims within the EU, if they haven't already.'
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This is impossible, without compromising us!

If a muslim rapes a non-muslim, who will prosecute him? Our courts, or the muslim courts?

Will we go to them, for our justice? Are they to be our judges, or we theirs? Who will take judicial supremacy?

And if a non-muslim steals from a muslim, who will prosecute them? If it is the muslims, then under sharia law, the thief's right hand will be cut off! If is is we, then their hand will not be cut off. This would not satisfy a shiite muslim.

Our cultures are non-integrable.

Therefore, should UKIP oppose the institution of Sharia law, even if it is proposed 'only for muslims', in the UK? Or, if necessary, throughout the EU?

Remember, some silly young women steal make-up until they grow up, and some silly young men steal traffic signs. Under Sharia law, both of these types would have their right hands cut off! Would they really deserve this? Also, apparently, 80% of people steal their neighbour's milk from their doorstep! This was the finding of a study by some professional org., but I can't remember which one. This means that 80% of us could have our right hands cut off! Seriously!

Exactly, its **** like that, which will make people vote BNP.

I've voted that we should oppose Sharia law being introduced in Britain, even if it only applied to Muslims. As I've said in the other thread you mentioned, I'm dead against that kind of separatism. One law for all.

Having said which, I felt slightly ridiculous as I clicked the voting button, as there really is no chance whatever of Sharia law ever being introduced here anyway, regardless of what the loopier members of the Muslim Parliament (unelected) might want. Incidentally, I'm pretty sure that most of the British Muslims I know - even the more religious ones - would sooner emigrate from Britain than live under Sharia law! (I hope this doesn't give NYorks Patriot any ideas!).

I've heard that even in Pakistan's NW Frontier Province - (state motto: "Home of the World's Craziest Fundamentalists!") - the recent introduction of Sharia law by the local assembly is controversial and widely unpopular.

Do you remember that a year or so ago, in a N. African country, a woman was tried for 'adultery'/her private life? She was buried up to her neck in the sand, and stoned to death! Her children, one of which I remember as being a boy of around 4-5 years old, were forced to stone her along with the rest of her community, to teach them how to behave 'properly'! A few seconds of the stoning was shown on the tV news, with the head of the woman obscured with fuzziness by the camera. The boy was crying as he stoned his mother to death.

They did the same a couple of weeks earlier, to a woman who had been raped, for 'committing adultery'.

I prefer British law.

Yes, I do remember that. That is exactly why I'm pretty sure most Muslims in Britain would never want anything to do with Sharia law.

I prefer British law.

I'm trying not to be a pedant but we have three legal systems! English law, Scots law, and devolved laws for Northern Ireland. Wales is in a funny situation making some laws, but being part of the English legal system.

There is no British law!

hmm, Sharia law is, as far as my understanding goes, pretty broad, and not really comparable to western law - wikipedia has a good summary of it. I personally think to just 'oppose' it would attract significant criticism from the left, and, in part rightly so. Many parts of Sharia law, are indeed at odds with our own system, and as such, should subvert to it. However, just rejecting Sharia law, period, imo is wrong. Take for instance banks offering muslim customers accounts that dont pay conventional interest. Its good business for them, and provides a service to the customer. I dont think banks should be mandated to do this, but if they think there's profit to be had, why not?

So i think it should be UKIPs policy to condemn the bad bits, while not attacking it as a whole.

Originally Posted by arden forester

I prefer British law.

I'm trying not to be a pedant but we have three legal systems! English law, Scots law, and devolved laws for Northern Ireland. Wales is in a funny situation making some laws, but being part of the English legal system.

There is no British law!

:shock: Don't speak to me when you are trying!!!!!!