Car flag ban 'outrageous' says UKIP MP

Populist Lee · 24-10-2008, 10:02 PM

This is interesting.

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/lea...mberplates.pdf

Scroll down to last paragraph of page 4.
If what the minister is now saying is the case . . . then HMG has ratted on its committment to amend the regulations.

SponPlague · 24-10-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by European Citizen

Why?

Do we put our membership of the UN, NATO, WTO, WHO etc to public vote on a regular basis?

These organizations are not radically different fromwhat we were told we were joining...

ryansoton · 24-10-2008, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by European Citizen

We had one, more than two thirds were in favour.

No member of the general public have ever had a say on if we wanted to enter a political union with the European Union, no member of the general public has ever had a vote on if we want unlimited mass imigration into our control from other EU states.

What is the point of our parliament in Westminster if all it does is rubber stamp laws passed in Brussels?

Would you not agree that when you vote in a general election you vote for someone to run our country?

If like me you do vote for this reason then how on earth can you support the EU? as it is them who govern our country.

Tell me, with our own public services in drastic need of improvement and our roads with holes in them everywhere are we funding underground services in Warsaw?

The £100.000 per minute we pay into a corrupt regime that calls it self the EU is completly wasted, with money like this being thrown away no wonder Mr Osbourne is off sunning himself on the yacht with the Russians!!

Just a question too, when/if Mr Putin is removed from power in Russia (He is still in control despite not being president) what will happen to all these dodgy Russians who are splashing the cash in th UK?? Who will the Tories turn to for money then?? after all they will all be in jail!!!

European Citizen · 24-10-2008, 11:14 PM

You vote for someone to represent you in Parliament, not to govern the country.

As for the rest of your post, it is nothing but tired eurosceptic rhetoric.

British-Conservatism · 24-10-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SponPlague

These organizations are not radically different fromwhat we were told we were joining...

Lets have a real democracy and vote on them all.

British-Conservatism · 24-10-2008, 11:39 PM

Public referendums are needed on the EU, Immigration, Hanging, Corporal Punishment, Iraq, NATO, etc etc

SponPlague · 25-10-2008, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by European Citizen

You vote for someone to represent you in Parliament, not to govern the country.

The biggest party in parliament should govern the country; if people knew how much power had been given away, politicians and rabid europhiles would be strung up and lynched! Lucky Ted Heath died when he did...

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European Citizen · 25-10-2008, 12:03 AM

The simplest solution from my perspective would be to make the EU fully democratic - preferably with an elected president and bicameral Parliament (scrapping the Council of The European Union, "CONSILIUM"). The only trouble is you eurosceptics would oppose that too.

Anthony Butcher · 25-10-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by European Citizen

The simplest solution from my perspective would be to make the EU fully democratic - preferably with an elected president and bicameral Parliament (scrapping the Council of The European Union, "CONSILIUM"). The only trouble is you eurosceptics would oppose that too.

The day they ask the British public to vote on a Johnny Foreigner president of the EU that they have never heard of before would be the beginning of the end for Britain's membership of the EU. I say bring it on

prober · 25-10-2008, 05:07 PM

As UKIP some years ago ceased have any campaigns on issues , like EU propaganda packs in schools, this is a classic case of UKIP bleating and hand wringing with no plan to do anything about it or exploit the issue and get credibility on it.

UKIP has plenty of lawyers which it never makes use of ( except for threatening off liners, including this forum ) starting with Zuckerman. It could issue a guidance note and legal contact point for memebrs if stopped by police with the declared intention of taking a cause celebre right through the court system as a UKIP sponsored issue with max press coverage like the metric martyrs campaign not done by UKIP.

Better still it could arrange for one of the invisible MEPs to be the one stopped for such a crime.

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European Citizen Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The European Union Posts: 466 Party: Conservatives	The simplest solution from my perspective would be to make the EU fully democratic - preferably with an elected president and bicameral Parliament (scrapping the Council of The European Union, "CONSILIUM"). The only trouble is you eurosceptics would oppose that too. __________________ Working towards a country called "Europe".

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25-10-2008, 05:07 PM	#20 (permalink)
prober Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 860	As UKIP some years ago ceased have any campaigns on issues , like EU propaganda packs in schools, this is a classic case of UKIP bleating and hand wringing with no plan to do anything about it or exploit the issue and get credibility on it. UKIP has plenty of lawyers which it never makes use of ( except for threatening off liners, including this forum ) starting with Zuckerman. It could issue a guidance note and legal contact point for memebrs if stopped by police with the declared intention of taking a cause celebre right through the court system as a UKIP sponsored issue with max press coverage like the metric martyrs campaign not done by UKIP. Better still it could arrange for one of the invisible MEPs to be the one stopped for such a crime.