UKIP's Dirty Dai told to "Stop Drinking or Die"

UKIPSW · 14-09-2008, 03:10 AM

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Three months ago, I was visiting friends in Kent when my body gave up on me.

I had received warning signs that my health was shaky for some months; however, this was different. I was in pain so acute that I could not get out out bed. I felt like a wild animal and just wanted to crawl away and lick my wounds clean. Friends rushed me to hospital, where doctors and nurses ran a battery of tests. After four days of poking and prodding, a doctor sat me down and with a sombre face announced I had low cholesterol.

My immediate reaction was a sense of relief.

I knew high cholesterol was a bad thing, so I figured low meant I was all right. But if that was all that was wrong, why was I in agony? Then the doctor looked at me gravely, as he listed the more serious stuff that had sent my body into a miasma of pain. It would seem I was suffering from extreme anaemia, diabetes, prostate cancer and cirrhosis of the liver.

It took a moment or two for the news to sink in. I was stunned. But there was absolutely no doubt in my mind where the root cause of these multiple illnesses lay – it was good old alcohol. Booze and I have had a somewhat overly familiar relationship for all my adult life; actually, I’d been drinking since my mid-teens.

I drank because I liked the taste. I didn’t use it as a crutch, it was just a part of my life. I never did drugs, not even cannabis. I loved life and it’s well known that wine and women were also paramount in my philosophy.

And it has given me something of a reputation, along with my healthy bachelor lifestyle, as a hedonistic man about town. ‘The Seducer of the Valleys’ and ‘Dirty Dai’ are among the nicknames given to me by newspaper columnists after they noticed how, in the late Sixties and early Seventies, I was getting through debutantes like a dose of salts.

Doctors told man-about-town Dai Llewellyn give up the drink or die | Mail Online

Can't we get some 'normal' press coverage?

Saving a post office, clearing up litter, helping old ladies. Anything that doesn't involve alcohol, women, fraud, infighting etc.

david H · 14-09-2008, 07:27 AM

The more I hear about UKIP the dafter they are. James Whale, now this twit. Why not get some normal people to stand who the voters can identify with. You are running a circus and can not hope to be much more than a joke. Geoffrey Collier, another bit of stupidity for you all to squabble over. UKIP? - The Nitwit party!

BASILDON BOY · 14-09-2008, 07:46 AM

UKIP could make him health spokesman...

...after all we have a user of prostitutes as spokesman on women!

stathan · 14-09-2008, 10:07 AM

The guy's an embarrassing old Gin Soak.

I suggest that he remains a sometime entertaining drinking partner for those who don't have a personality of their own and is quietly ushered away from the party hierarchy and UKIP in general.

Geoffrey Collier · 14-09-2008, 11:13 AM

david H. : So you dislike people who act badly; drunks, imposters and financial manipulators, as much as you dislike those who try to change those things. Providing we understand your appreciation of life, we can understand you better. But what do you contribute to life other than sneers?

Aardvark · 14-09-2008, 11:33 AM

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Lord Henry at Rawlinson's End (Viv Stanshall):

"If I had all of the money I'd spent on women and drink I'd spend it all on women and drink."

A close friend of mine is dying of prostrate cancer and he is hardly a drinker; that can hit anyone. I think his cirrhosis could be down to the drink, but I'm not certain about anaemia, unless linked to the cirrhosis, and diabetes (which type?). I think the diabetes could be down to being overweight and eating unhealthily, as it appears to be with several of my friends.

I don't think the photo is as embarrassing as Nattrass in a bikini and I have dressed eccentrically when being a thespian (you should see me as Cleopatra, Queen of Egypt in a mummer's play).

We all have to die sometime and I'd rather die having had a few ales, a pile of fine food and a few good sh@gs than go to my grave a puritan. If you don't smoke, don't drink and don't have sex you won't live longer, it will just seem that way.

stathan:

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I suggest that he remains a sometime entertaining drinking partner for those who don't have a personality of their own and is quietly ushered away from the party hierarchy and UKIP in general.

From what I hear and from the people I meet there are plenty in the UKIP hierarchy who lack a personality of their own; perhaps Dai can accompany them. I assume, as you are very active in the same region, you actually know the guy. Did he support you as MEP candidate?

stathan · 14-09-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Aardvark

From what I hear and from the people I meet there are plenty in the UKIP hierarchy who lack a personality of their own; perhaps Dai can accompany them. I assume, as you are very active in the same region, you actually know the guy. Did he support you as MEP candidate?

I don't really know the guy other than observing and listening to him during his pathetic Welsh assembly Campaign.

My impression is of an amiable old Gin Soak who is probably an amusing and amiable bar companion for an hour or two. As a serious political candidate forget it.

I'm afraid that the UKIP hierarchy's obsession with anyone with a double barreled name or a hint of aristocracy has to be snapped out of to prevent embarrassment of Dai's kind impinging on the efforts of the rest of us.

Dai's links with Wales are extremely tenuous these days, has not lived here for decades, his name is virtually unknown to any of the Welsh electorate and even then only to the older population to which his name has nil impact, his claim to fame appears to be being brother to Princess Margaret's lover many moons ago, A real relevant vote winner for today's voters.

He pitched up in Cardiff North it appears purely on the strength that his father once held the seat many moons ago and presented himself to a bemused electorate before enjoying a few boozy lunches and shooting off back to London and getting less votes than his predecessor at the previous election the hard working local Don Houlston.

I cringed at his appearance at last years conference pledging to stand again in Cardiff at the next GE.

NO THANKS!

david H · 14-09-2008, 03:08 PM

Geoffrey, that was a little Comedy of Manners on a foible I detect in UKIP - that of trying to use celebs to boost their chances but it constantly backfires on them like a Brian Rix farce. It is a legitimate target. You are presenting yourselves to a serious public in serious elections as buffoons and it stems from your leaders or your executive and needs serious attention.
I also made a serious pointn which was not a sneer, sir, but friendly advice: "The more I hear about UKIP the dafter they are. James Whale, now this twit. Why not get some normal people to stand who the voters can identify with."

Geoffrey Collier · 14-09-2008, 03:54 PM

david H: I have always made clear in my postings, that the overwhelming number of UKIP members are good decent and forgiving people. I have made it equally clear that our problems have always, with very few exceptions, emanated from the leadership. That is the true position as I see it. I support the membership, and toil strenuously to change the leadership. I don't hate them, but I do despise them. We have two things, a worthy cause and a corrupt leadership. Support the cause but attack relentlessly the corruption in all its forms and manifestations.

We try to get elected good normal people, but we have also witnessed the MEP selection process. In addition, an elected NEC member is summarily dismissed, and his dismissal, apparently, endorsed by the MEPs' present; all three of whom themselves are being investigated for financial and other irregularities. Quite depressing, but we must hope that long-awaited forensic audit will finally take place. The judicial review is now underway; the conclusion of which will trigger other investigations.

david H · 14-09-2008, 04:58 PM

Geoffrey, I did not mean any disrespect to the members nor you who I have in the past found to be courteous and willing to debate, but the party is becoming a joke under these people. I see this from scanning this forum. The BNP has internal problems and I have criticised these in the past, but they stem from too much internal control as their enemies are more dangerous than UKIP's and they need to maintain security and order. UKIP's come from folly and frivolity two absolutely fatal qualities in leaders. I sincerely hope you win.

14-09-2008, 07:27 AM	#2 (permalink)
david H Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,222	The more I hear about UKIP the dafter they are. James Whale, now this twit. Why not get some normal people to stand who the voters can identify with. You are running a circus and can not hope to be much more than a joke. Geoffrey Collier, another bit of stupidity for you all to squabble over. UKIP? - The Nitwit party! __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html Last edited by david H; 14-09-2008 at 07:31 AM.

14-09-2008, 03:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
david H Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,222	Geoffrey, that was a little Comedy of Manners on a foible I detect in UKIP - that of trying to use celebs to boost their chances but it constantly backfires on them like a Brian Rix farce. It is a legitimate target. You are presenting yourselves to a serious public in serious elections as buffoons and it stems from your leaders or your executive and needs serious attention. I also made a serious pointn which was not a sneer, sir, but friendly advice: "The more I hear about UKIP the dafter they are. James Whale, now this twit. Why not get some normal people to stand who the voters can identify with." __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html Last edited by david H; 14-09-2008 at 03:12 PM. Reason: typo

14-09-2008, 04:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
david H Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,222	Geoffrey, I did not mean any disrespect to the members nor you who I have in the past found to be courteous and willing to debate, but the party is becoming a joke under these people. I see this from scanning this forum. The BNP has internal problems and I have criticised these in the past, but they stem from too much internal control as their enemies are more dangerous than UKIP's and they need to maintain security and order. UKIP's come from folly and frivolity two absolutely fatal qualities in leaders. I sincerely hope you win. __________________ "You think you are combatting prejudice but you are at war with nature". Edmund Burke. http://www.buchanan.org/pa-98-1127.html

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14-09-2008, 07:46 AM	#3 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 2,044	UKIP could make him health spokesman... ...after all we have a user of prostitutes as spokesman on women!

14-09-2008, 10:07 AM	#4 (permalink)
stathan Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 423	The guy's an embarrassing old Gin Soak. I suggest that he remains a sometime entertaining drinking partner for those who don't have a personality of their own and is quietly ushered away from the party hierarchy and UKIP in general.

14-09-2008, 11:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
Geoffrey Collier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,323	david H. : So you dislike people who act badly; drunks, imposters and financial manipulators, as much as you dislike those who try to change those things. Providing we understand your appreciation of life, we can understand you better. But what do you contribute to life other than sneers?

14-09-2008, 03:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
Geoffrey Collier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,323	david H: I have always made clear in my postings, that the overwhelming number of UKIP members are good decent and forgiving people. I have made it equally clear that our problems have always, with very few exceptions, emanated from the leadership. That is the true position as I see it. I support the membership, and toil strenuously to change the leadership. I don't hate them, but I do despise them. We have two things, a worthy cause and a corrupt leadership. Support the cause but attack relentlessly the corruption in all its forms and manifestations. We try to get elected good normal people, but we have also witnessed the MEP selection process. In addition, an elected NEC member is summarily dismissed, and his dismissal, apparently, endorsed by the MEPs' present; all three of whom themselves are being investigated for financial and other irregularities. Quite depressing, but we must hope that long-awaited forensic audit will finally take place. The judicial review is now underway; the conclusion of which will trigger other investigations.