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From a Greg Watkins email

In response to Timmy Wotzits attempts to spin to THE advantage for EUkip on EUReferendum.blogspot.com

He is advocating a Forum for EUkip members as suggested on Richard North’s Forum – of particular relevance since all the EUkip supporters have run away for fear of exposing their inability to defend their party against UKIP supporters seeking integrity, honesty and probity and the return to UKIP values such that they might be electable by informed individuals of integrity and not reliant on the ignorance of the electorate and their hired hands and sychophants.

An excellent idea but may I suggest that it will be as sterile as kissing your sister - warm, cuddly and makes you feel comfortable but hopefully leading nowhere.

The greatest benefits of discourse on Forums is not the ad hominem attacks on critics by marshalled morons but seeking to address and rebut the criticism with manners and facts. If nothing else it is educational for both the participants and observers. If your protagonists are unable to do this, merely sinking to the bullying and abusive name calling we have all witnessed from the newcomers like BobFM there is little point.

If they can not rationally and politely make their point they merely sink to the level of bullying chavery of barrow boys - as we witnessed today in the treatment of John West at EUkip's NEC meeting. Zucherman of Bent & Manure showed all the legal skills of the gutter, resorting to name calling.

That the NEC is morally out of order requiring 12 elected members and 2 MEPs ONLY + a Chairman, shortly to be replaced with a Chair more readily sat upon, it is morally reprehensible that the party leader sits as either an elected member or an MEP dependent on the numbers needed to pack the vote! Today to be on the safe side there were 4 MEPs present for protection from democracy - Wittaker (sitting as Chairman although he was replaced by Farage's placeman Nutt All, after the arbitrary deselection of the elected lead candidate Greg Beaman) , Farage, Titford & Deadweight Derek the corrupt Derek Clark who notoriously betrayed us all by signing up to Britain's greater subsidiarity to the EU and to working with EU committees to improve their control!

I repeat: Derek Clark who notoriously betrayed us all by signing up to Britain's greater subsidiarity to the EU and to working with EU committees to improve their control! I stress he did not merely act as the whore of Brussels in so doing but Farage pimped his services! No doubt a part of the reallignment policy suiting their pro EU Ind.Dem.Grouping in the EU from which Farage's co Chairman Jens Pieter Bonde has gone ahead to build the bridge head to Declan Ganley sticking like **** to a blanket to possible access to his wallet.

A further step along this road to betrayal at the NEC was to all but summarily dismissing the newly and clearly elected NEC member Eric Edmonds - now he may mumble a bit as a speaker, he may have a poor telephone manner, he may have little concept of manners but I have little doubt that he was not only elected by a clear margin but also that he is a man of some honesty and competence. He was one of those who got my vote ;-)

Eric Edmonds counts amongst his achievements a couple of degrees and some prominence both as a civil servant and as a Mathematics lecturer but more notably in the confidential climes of the Bank of England all be it in the theoretical black arts of economics & Markets Mathematician - it is hard to consider this representative of the members, duelly elected, can just be summarily dismissed - on the spurious claim that he brought EUkip into disrepute by voicing his disquiet at the management & conduct of the recent EUkip selection process.

This grave cullomny falls further into ridicule when one appreciates that after the incompetent farce conducted by the lick spittal Christopher Gill of any thing you want Nigel fame - we note that Piers Merchant ostensibly appointed as Returning Officer for the very same election delivered his report on the election over which he presided calling, I understand, for re-runs in various areas on the grounds of corruption!

This is indeed reallignment and frequently the NEC descends to unprintable foul language rarely found beyond the climes of children and the insecure and shouting - so redollent of 1956 in The UN and Nikita Kreuschev banging the table with his shoe - how long before Farage will feel his absolute power sufficient to shoot his Bereia at a Polit Bureau Meeting of the newly realligned EUkip.

Whilst you are still able to shower off the slime from falling in the gutter of British politics may I suggest Timmy that you tippy toey back to Portugal and try to salvage your reputation before it is too greatly realligned and you find your language to be as childish as your precursors in the EU Press Office job or the sadly insecure little Mounsey so in need of attention he can hardly string a sentence together without obscenity, with whom you are living. You are being used wake up.

Regards,
Greg L-W.

Tim Worstall

"In response to Timmy Wotzits"

Fame, fame at last! GLW has bestowed me with a nickname!

Can a knighthood be far behind?

"He is advocating a Forum for EUkip"

No, I'm not. Sorry, no cigar.

SponPlague

What a cheesy nickname

I've tried a forum for UKIP members only; it failed for lack of interest, and intersting things...

Tim Worstall

Quite. It is upon your advice that I've not recommended such a thing.