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Old 12-09-2008, 02:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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From a GLW email

9th September 2008

Dear Chairman,

RESIGNATION FROM UKIP.



I have decided now not to renew my membership of UKIP. I have delayed in the hope that matters were going to improve within the party, but it appears that things are going from bad to worse.

It appears that Eric Edmonds has been dismissed from the NEC. I also understand that John WEST who should be a member of the NEC and should now have been allowed to sit as a member of that body, has not been allowed to. This is in direct contravention of the Constitution and rules of the party and is totally undemocratic. If the leadership is not prepared to stand by those rules then the party is destined to remain in the political doldrums forever and has no credibility with the majority of the ordinary members.

I joined this party in the hope that it offered a ray of hope in amongst the sleaze and Machiavellian stench of the other parties. I’m afraid that I was mistaken to believe and trust in an equally corrupt and self-seeking cabal, which seems to permeate the leadership and party senior officers. The recent pre selection debacle has opened my eyes to what is going on in the party and I want none of it.

My membership will now pass to the C.I.B. and the English Democrats and I hope that I find a more democratic and transparent organisation than the one that I now leave.


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9th September, 2008.



Dear *****,



RESIGNATION.



I hereby submit my immediate resignation as Secretary of *** Branch UK Independence Party.

I can no longer support what appears to be a corrupt and self seeking cabal of pseudo conservatives that seem to control the party.

I attach a copy of the letter I have sent to the party leader and chairman for your information.

I wish you all the very best in the future.

I will continue my opposition to the EU through the N.C.I.B.

Yours sincerely,

GLW continues

I believe that we all owe a debt of gratitude to the diminishing group of decent people in EUkip still trying to clean it up to make it electable – The Butterflies who supply me with facts and the truth about the corruption at the top of EUkip and the dishonesty of people like Farage, Denny, Smith, Bannerman (Too dishonest to know his own name!) etc. etc.

I note Matra Andreasen brings an entirely normal code of ethics & behaviour to climbing the ‘greasy pole’ of politics obviously pleasing Farage and maybe others too short sighted to understand they sign their own political death warrants with such lack of morality. I hardly see the morality of a foreign carpet bagger of any significance but it can only be an idiot who pays the kind of salary for part time service when a competent British Firm of unimpeachable morality would do the job with greater transparency, plausibility & impartiality for a fraction of the costs. It seems the UK independence party is ever willing to undermine British workers – first Knapman with his people trafficking interests and attic full of cheap Polish labour – now on a professional level Farage imports a Danish born Argentinian married Spanish resident of no stature or credibility in Britain to the public. One wonders what THE REAL interest is!

The gullible who fund this liason must have a pretty low opinion of British accountants! However when one considers the corrupt, incompetent and dishonest Andre w Smith and his shoddy concepts of morality and accountancy and then by clever dick Bruce Lawson who failed abysmally to expose the corruption one can hardly be surprised!

Late last night or early this morning I received two copies of a very strange document! I gather certain individuals have been soliciting complaint to bear false witness to aid Farage & his sordid little placemen in their so called realignment (Period of The Long Knife).

It is astonishing the panic that is becoming manifest amongst the corrupt leadership of EUkip which has escalated since their conference failure with, I am informed by several people present on both days) an average of 2-300 present in the hall whilst they thought there might have been upto 500 present. One of the drawbacks of having a larger number of teenies is that they have a shorter concentration time span and skip ‘lectures’ they think will be boring – can’t have been many in the hall for turncoat Tory light Bob Spink, have you actually listened to his speech? It was awful and completely content free merely praising himself and rather unpleasantly linking the sacrifice of his career (pushed before jumped!) with the willingness of the British Army to put their Country before their lives YECH plus of course the mandatory cult praise of Farage.

The greatest disaster of the conference was of course the utterly implausible story planted in The Indy and the dishonesty of Brendan Carlin in the MoS in reprinting the pack of lies aided of course by Farage’s support of the story! The speed at which little Timmy Wotzit & then the liar & cheat Mark Croucher were brought in to try to put a spin on the lies.

Consider – Timmy Wotzit reminds us on Iain Dale’s Diary & Richard North’s Forum via EUreferendum.Blogspot.com the article stated:

* Annabelle Fuller (who writes the excellent IS THERE MORE TO LIFE THAN SHOES blog)
a string of self indulgent, immature, insecure obscenities portraying her as a hard nosed hard @rsed slut

* Nigel Farage is facing two rival plots to unseat him.
one is surprised that only 2 claimed plots are provided to seek sympathy for Farage in his beleaguered hard done by article – consider when Blair was riding high there were no plotters, however now that Brown has been exposed as utterly incompetent as aa leader and duplicitous to boot there is an army of plotters. I believe this article wildly under estimates the number, network, authority and competence of the plotters – who do not wish to see UKIP collapse and thus plot to get some hope of leadership – not just a performing monket and a few paid praise singers!

* Former UKIP leader Roger Knapman is systematically undermining Farage."

Let us consider this – I wonder howmany remember the total betrayal of Knapman by Farage?
Knapman was parachuted into UKIP by Farage – he was a failed Tory politician of staggering tedium who had just lost one of the safest Tory seats Stroud, almost an act of genius. The Tories refused to take him back and his embarrassing losses on Lloyds did little to help his plight.
Having bullied Hockney & little Ian Gillman into standing down as leadership candidates Farage anointed his chosen leader.

In early summer of 2004 without consulting Knapman or the NEC Farage decided to bring in the controversial Robert Kilroy Silk – Knapman was just treated as the village idiot, sadly which he transpired to be, way out of his intellectual depth!

For Farage to talk of plotters is just funny – remember the plotting against Damien Hockney, The plotting against Craig McKinley, The plotting against Schoffield, the plotting against Michael Holmes and then the plotting against Knapman. Then consider the corruption, dishonesty and lies of Farage’s crew during the leadership, the plotting and outright lies and dishonesty of the creepy little Mark Croucher (had he put half the effort into his job as he does in spinning lies & half truths on the Forum EUkip might not be in the mess it is now) consider the plotting & dishonesty surrounding Bromley and the dishonesty of Independence comic under Mark Croucher.

Having brought RKS on board deceitfully behind Roger Knapman’s back Farage continued his plotting and scheming for HIS party and on the morning of the results of the election I remember I was talking to Nigel at his count when RKS’s result came through and I said to NF now you have a problem – you promised him the leadership so you had better have a stainless steel gilded cage for him by dawn – I suggest campaign manager for the up coming General Election (a poison challis to slow him down because Hell will freeze over before EUkip gets an MP elected). I said – remember the Chinese proverb: If you intend to manually strangle a tiger be sure you complete the job. Shortly after Tom Wise was elected and I said to NF beware, trust him as far as you can kick him but he is as thick as a brick what the hell will you be able to do with him to which the retort was ‘We’ll have to send him out to lunch for 5 years and hope he gets lost’.

Plotting?!!! You ain’t seen nothing yet when a rat is in a corner ………………
The long knives are out and the children have been fired up as Kamikatze Ninjas who will wield the sword whilst Farage quaffs his claret and each in turn will fall – the experienced start civil wars and the young die in them!

Already we have seen the children withdraw from debate, certain they will be outclassed in fact and experienced and the political whores have been brought in to fight the first round but they are clearly losing whether on what was UKIPForum, Iain Dale’s Diary, EUroRealist, EUreferendum, even the sad little lad Chris Mounsey is taking a pasting – EUkip is a corpse wriggling as it dies the weekend of flatulence in BourneMoth was a total failure – only the na?ve and the gullible and of course the paid were fooled. No wonder even the likes of Bob Feel Martinis & the vaguely idiotic Denny have run away to avoid further exposure.

The desperation of EUkip is such that they have just made idiots of themselves in fear and ineptitude firstly by rejecting young John West from his elected role on the NEC and then by dishonestly sacking Eric Edmond who was elected to the NEC. So howmany votes do they hold between them? Then we hear David Abott is to be engineered out but they are warry if dumping Delboy for fear of being accused of racism – that’s what happens when you want an Uncle Tom for publicity and he turns out to be more militant in his own right with a mind of his own, brain I’m not sure but definitely a mind!

Oh Dear they are in trouble as they issue the whisper to the toadies and the creeps in a whisper for help – seeking evidence and betrayal from the armies of Judas in the party.

Consider the 4 page report that landed in my inbox, I chatted to a few of the leaders in EUkip and armed with the details made a phone call to 01206 – 322 321 – the man had already shown himself to be a spineless underhand creep so when I got through I asked for him by name – he replied that is me who are you when I said Greg Lance-Watkins there was a pause and silence as of a naughty child caught stealing – I said ‘You Sir are a liar and a coward’ asked what I meant by that ‘I said I considered him to be a liar and a cheat and had he the integrity to withdraw his comments about me since he could not substantiate his lies’ – it was quite funny, he wasn’t even man enough to stand his ground and denied he had lied – I read out a sentence containing his lies about me and I said ‘are you claiming that you didn’t write this in a 4 page toady report to EUkip’s NEC? You Sir are a liar a cheat and a coward and beneath contempt not even man enough to defend your opinion’

He blustered terribly claiming I lied about people in EUkip at which I interrupted and demanded he withdraw that lie since he could not substantiate it at which he claimed that anyone who wanted to prove I was not telling the truth would need to be prepared to lose ?200,000 in the Courts’ at which I pointed out he was right that they would lose but it would be considerably more since I could substantiate my every statement as Fact.

Lost and bewildered the pathetic and duplicitous little man unable to defend his position like all bullies – transpired to be a coward and ran away by hanging up.

George Curtis – is proven a liar, a cheat, dishonest and a duplicitous coward beneath contempt.

I will be publishing his lies when I get around to it – no doubt Robin Page & John West will thus have more ammunition to supply their legal teams respectively.

Just in case he missed it:

GEORGE CURTIS you are sir a liar, a coward, duplicitous and beneath contempt after so very many failed attempts at self aggrandisement in EUkip even there I note recently that in an election in 2007 you were supported by a risible 289 votes as an NEC candidate so I am not alone in holding you in contempt it seems – even then John West out classed you with 500 votes in his first attempt and this time in 2008 he was elected to the NEC – what a nasty poisonous little sneak you are George Curtis.

I do hope that George Curtis is man enough to write and apologise for having lied and misrepresented Robin Page & John West he is just the sort of creepy little git that sometimes one comes across that makes one wonder if Britain is worth defending any more – just what preferment were you promised Curtis that you betrayed your fellow members – endlessly you lay claim to your Naval roots as a Navigator – morally you are completely lost and just what was that Naval service 3 years National Service polishing the compass?

It is interesting isn’t it that Eric Edmond was summarily dismissed from the NEC for doing his elected job – representing the wishes of the electorate members by questioning the handling of the selection and election process which included known criminal breeches of The Data Protection Act and widespread disquiet so responsibly he did his duty as a representative of the members whilst the majority of the NEC so scared of the exposure of their corruption dishonestly removed him from the NEC having provided NO FACTS, NO EVIDENCE, NO CONSTUTIONAL BASIS for this Kangarroo Court demanding he defend himself against the charges without providing the charges – So Who Read Kafka’s The Trial?

It is interesting that after Edmond had been so dishonestly removed the Returning Officer for the selection/election produced his report which called for a rerun of the process in various areas and not one single solitary appeal made by any member was given ANY consideration.

The selection & election of candidates as MEPs was corrupt, corrupted, dishonest and invalid even before the start of the deselections and placements. Beyond all doubt the EUkip NEC and leadership are liars cheats and dishonest and to support them in any way is an act of dishonesty acting against British values and the interests of these United Kingdoms and the Patriotic cause of liberation from the EU and repatriation of our democracy – Those leading EUkip are a sordid disgrace.

EUkip’s leadership brings shame on themselves and BRINGS EUkip INTO DISREPUTE with their lies and dishonesty.

There are now TWO vacancies on the NEC one should be filled by Eric Edmond the rightfull elected representative of the members and the other by John West. ANY varience from this or attempt to place a crony on the NEC is a direct act of dishonesty against the members of EUkip.

I do not believe that ANY individual of integrity or morality can support these sleaze ridden self enriching failures. They want to run the Country! They have proved they lack the competence to run a bath!

Fortunately – that I am in a position to keep supplying members with irrefutable Facts despite the lies of people like George Curtis, Denny, Croucher, Bannerman, Carver, Moran, Lott and their sordid ilk, is at least some clear proof that there are those VERY close to Farage both in the structure, the clique, Brussels and elsewhere who are disgusted by the dishonesty and damage being done to their party and the betrayal of the members of UKIP.
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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My membership will now pass to the C.I.B. and the English Democrats and I hope that I find a more democratic and transparent organisation than the one that I now leave.

Ive been an EDP member for 6 years and I believe it is the only party which will stand up for England. I think that the UK is finished since devolution and that the people of England now need a voice. The battle ahead for us now is the creation of an English Parliament.
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Maybe a new populist patriotic force can emerge just as soon as UKIP (too thatcherite) and BNP (a personality cult registered as a political party) die the slow painful deaths they deserve.
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moe,for clarity,could you just remind us what the EDP wishes for?

I only ask because everything seems so clouded these days,especially with the rubbish that Patrick Harris has been posting recently.

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The EDP seem to be dead before they have even got started, humiliated in London and humiliated in all parliamentary by-elections contested which have actually been normal. (David Davis by-election was just stupid). So god knows why people are wasting their time with the EDP.
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moe,for clarity,could you just remind us what the EDP wishes for?

I only ask because everything seems so clouded these days,especially with the rubbish that Patrick Harris has been posting recently.

Thanks,moe.
The EDPs main wish is of course the establishment of an English Parliament.

The EDP for me stands for fairness for England. It tries to increase awareness of such things as Regionalisation, the Barnett Formula, the Scottish Claim of Right, the destruction of English culture. No-one else stands for England.

For example - This government stands by and lets people in England go blind or even die for want of drugs freely available in Scotland. If the situation was reversed, there would be riots.

Also for me it is about my own deep sense of being English, I feel no affinity with or attachment to the UK.

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In response to Blueblood I would say that it is UKIP that is a waste of time, not anything against any of the membership but simply because the UK itself is now doomed.
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The EDP seem to be dead before they have even got started, humiliated in London and humiliated in all parliamentary by-elections contested which have actually been normal. (David Davis by-election was just stupid). So god knows why people are wasting their time with the EDP.
FEP have the potential to make sense & acheive but I have to agree with you that EDP have not worked out & in my view with the tories likely to win the next general election they are not likely to do so any time. I am most sad for those former UKIP people who have joined & remain with such a dud party.
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In response to Blueblood I would say that it is UKIP that is a waste of time, not anything against any of the membership but simply because the UK itself is now doomed.
Blueblood is BNP not UKIP. If the UK is doomed is BNP not also doomed in your opinion? If not why not?
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Blueblood is BNP not UKIP. If the UK is doomed is BNP not also doomed in your opinion? If not why not?
I think both parties are doomed. I believe that we will have a Tory government in 2009 or 2010 which will be the catalyst for the Scots to vote for independence in 2010. At this point the UK / Britain is finished.
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I wonder whether some of the malcontents currently thought to be part of the bnp/tory anti ukip axis are in fact preparing themselves to enter oblivion,otherwise known as the black hole of the EDP.Vanitas has long disappeared down that route so ably led by RKS.This would suit the establishment ,weakening the opposition ahead of next June.It is significant that those most opposed to implementing the current party strategy have known contacts with ex UKIP members wasting their efforts in the EDs.One at least of these is a possible state asset with a track record in fringe parties.
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