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Taken from G Watkins email

Robin Page to George Curtis on September 10th 2008.





Dear George,



I have just read your report on the election process for the Eastern Region, which I am sorry to say, in my view, you handled with total incompetence. To put it another way – as far as democracy is concerned the result was a total farce – your “report” (the description is a joke in itself) says nothing of the false and misleading statements included in personal statements or misleading photographs – perhaps you weren’t aware of them. However – from your point of view I am sure you got the result you wanted – which, actually George, was not the point of the election. The whole aim was for the grass roots members to decide – the very people who are currently being taken for a ride.



About me you seem somewhat muddled – perhaps you weren’t wearing your hearing aids when you were talking to Peter Reeve? Perhaps you needed new batteries? Perhaps Peter Reeve misled you? Perhaps you simply weren’t up to the job?



I will try to keep it simple for you George in view of your problems.



My health – sometime ago, out of the blue, and with no symptoms, I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Something that no doubt would not have bothered you, or that other UKIP incompetent – in my view – Christopher Gill.



After a period of monitoring it was decided that I should have robotic surgery, which was performed by Professor David Neal. Try reading all this slowly George so you understand and if you have problems read it again. The operation took place on the 29th of November, 2007. You say that last year I was in “poor health” – I wasn’t. After rationalising my situation I decided to have an operation – albeit a serious one.



After the operation I was in poor health if you know anything about prostate operations George.



You say I then had from January to May to get my forms seen to – sorry George – after a prostate operation you have to take certain things very carefully. However – by the time April arrived I had made a fine recovery and my pelvic floors meant that I could throw my nappies away completely – are you still following this George. To the question put to me by Pete Reeve: “How are you now Robin?” The answer was George – “Fighting Fit”. Got it – do you understand? So fighting fit that as part of a long term strategy, the plan was to launch a South Cambridgeshire Branch with Nigel and Christopher Booker coming and hopefully involving Rory McGrath (ask someone who he is George – although you’ve all well and truly blown that now). That would lead on to the Europeans – and then more importantly to the next General Election – this is all known as “strategy” George. Ask Nigel, George – he knew all about it.



Oh and George you are a bit confused about the local elections. I was an “independent” District Councillor for 36 years and resigned to make a political point. I don’t believe in party politics at District level – strange to say you agreed with that position in one conversation I had with you – you must have forgotten – never mind – perhaps it was those hearing aids playing up again. I stood this time in the next village – Lulu’s village – and came within a whisker of knocking off a well-entrenched LIB-Dem – it was in fact a good result and there was never going to be a UKIP candidate – as you well know. That part of your “report” was pure mischief and deception - you ought to be ashamed of yourself – but people like you seldom are.



Anyway, are you still with me George – so yes I was fighting fit and all ready to see to my papers when I broke my ribs at the end of April. Then it was on to anti-biotics with a bad bout of bronchitis from 6.5.2008. I was on a seven day course which was unsuccessful and so went straight on to another one – total – 14 days – so Peter Reeve and David Challice said they would help me. But alas somebody somewhere had already said, “We have got to stop Robin Page”, and as most reasonable people in UKIP are already aware, “they” stopped me. I am sure you know who “they” are George.



So George your Report was Rubbish. You either did no research and so it was inaccurate and incompetent – or else you were being devious – and of course we all know about deviousness in the East – as do the police and OLAF. What disappoints me most in all this of course is the question mark over Nigel’s role. He knew all the facts – he could have sorted it out – why didn’t he? Or perhaps he did!



Grab your spade George – there are several members of the UKIP hierarchy currently digging themselves into a deep hole – and yes – you are helping them – so George, keep digging.



What do I say? Get a proper life George – you should know better at your age.





Robin Page


From another Greg Watkins email

Hey Ho – So I am not the only person who holds George Curtis in utter contempt as a liar – then again he could only get 289 people in the whole of EUkip to vote for him to be on the NEC last time he stood – that was less than Andrew Smith and we all know what a proven low life Andrew Smith is or Denny & he is both a liar AND a fool but apart from endlessly dragging EUkip’s name in the gutter with his dishonesty and covering up for Tom Wise and thus failing to hold a disciplinary hearing into Wise Denny is pretty irrelevant albeit a vicious failed and vindictive little liar and coward.

How embarrassing for George Curtis with his self important puffed up ego to be beaten by Andrew Smith, John West, Douglas Denny, Robin Page and others – no wonder, reliant on being PLACED by Tom Wise he is so full of petty bile and vitriol for those who are so clearly more popular than he!

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From another Watkins email


Consider the 4 page report that landed in my inbox, I chatted to a few of the leaders in EUkip and armed with the details made a phone call to 01206 – 322 321 – the man had already shown himself to be a spineless underhand creep so when I got through I asked for him by name – he replied that is me who are you when I said Greg Lance-Watkins there was a pause and silence as of a naughty child caught stealing – I said ‘You Sir are a liar and a coward’ asked what I meant by that ‘I said I considered him to be a liar and a cheat and had he the integrity to withdraw his comments about me since he could not substantiate his lies’ – it was quite funny, he wasn’t even man enough to stand his ground and denied he had lied – I read out a sentence containing his lies about me and I said ‘are you claiming that you didn’t write this in a 4 page toady report to EUkip’s NEC? You Sir are a liar a cheat and a coward and beneath contempt not even man enough to defend your opinion’

He blustered terribly claiming I lied about people in EUkip at which I interrupted and demanded he withdraw that lie since he could not substantiate it at which he claimed that anyone who wanted to prove I was not telling the truth would need to be prepared to lose ?200,000 in the Courts’ at which I pointed out he was right that they would lose but it would be considerably more since I could substantiate my every statement as Fact.

Lost and bewildered the pathetic and duplicitous little man unable to defend his position like all bullies – transpired to be a coward and ran away by hanging up.

George Curtis – is proven a liar, a cheat, dishonest and a duplicitous coward beneath contempt.

I will be publishing his lies when I get around to it – no doubt Robin Page & John West will thus have more ammunition to supply their legal teams respectively.

Just in case he missed it:

GEORGE CURTIS you are sir a liar, a coward, duplicitous and beneath contempt after so very many failed attempts at self aggrandisement in EUkip even there I note recently that in an election in 2007 you were supported by a risible 289 votes as an NEC candidate so I am not alone in holding you in contempt it seems – even then John West out classed you with 500 votes in his first attempt and this time in 2008 he was elected to the NEC – what a nasty poisonous little sneak you are George Curtis.

I do hope that George Curtis is man enough to write and apologise for having lied and misrepresented Robin Page & John West he is just the sort of creepy little git that sometimes one comes across that makes one wonder if Britain is worth defending any more – just what preferment were you promised Curtis that you betrayed your fellow members – endlessly you lay claim to your Naval roots as a Navigator – morally you are completely lost and just what was that Naval service 3 years National Service polishing the compass?

It is interesting isn’t it that Eric Edmond was summarily dismissed from the NEC for doing his elected job – representing the wishes of the electorate members by questioning the handling of the selection and election process which included known criminal breeches of The Data Protection Act and widespread disquiet so responsibly he did his duty as a representative of the members whilst the majority of the NEC so scared of the exposure of their corruption dishonestly removed him from the NEC having provided NO FACTS, NO EVIDENCE, NO CONSTUTIONAL BASIS for this Kangarroo Court demanding he defend himself against the charges without providing the charges – So Who Read Kafka’s The Trial?

It is interesting that after Edmond had been so dishonestly removed the Returning Officer for the selection/election produced his report which called for a rerun of the process in various areas and not one single solitary appeal made by any member was given ANY consideration.

The selection & election of candidates as MEPs was corrupt, corrupted, dishonest and invalid even before the start of the deselections and placements. Beyond all doubt the EUkip NEC and leadership are liars cheats and dishonest and to support them in any way is an act of dishonesty acting against British values and the interests of these United Kingdoms and the Patriotic cause of liberation from the EU and repatriation of our democracy – Those leading EUkip are a sordid disgrace.

EUkip’s leadership brings shame on themselves and BRINGS EUkip INTO DISREPUTE with their lies and dishonesty.

There are now TWO vacancies on the NEC one should be filled by Eric Edmond the rightfull elected representative of the members and the other by John West. ANY varience from this or attempt to place a crony on the NEC is a direct act of dishonesty against the members of EUkip.

I do not believe that ANY individual of integrity or morality can support these sleaze ridden self enriching failures. They want to run the Country! They have proved they lack the competence to run a bath!

Fortunately – that I am in a position to keep supplying members with irrefutable Facts despite the lies of people like George Curtis, Denny, Croucher, Bannerman, Carver, Moran, Lott and their sordid ilk, is at least some clear proof that there are those VERY close to Farage both in the structure, the clique, Brussels and elsewhere who are disgusted by the dishonesty and damage being done to their party and the betrayal of the members of UKIP.

May I for example remind you of the FACTS regarding the sordid collection of candidates available in the Eastern Region and be minded of the fact that already the process of selection and the election has been shown to be fatally flawed, whether by the dishonesty or the utter incompetence of Farage’s parachuted in failed Tory MP Christopher Gill who is clearly far too old to maintain a consistent line of thought and control & opted to fail to acquit his duties by scampering off on holiday – his duties incomplete. He is also directly cullpible for the Criminal Breech of The Data Protection Act under DPA Offence Number RFA 0208845 as being investigated by The Police under crime Number OF/08/427 so they tell me respectively.

Then we are aware that the Returning Officer spoke out in his report clearly stating that the selection & election in certain areas was so corrupted as to nececcitate the process was re-run. Despite this Nigel Farage had tried to bully him into making direct changes to the electoral selection by the members to suit his personal ambitions.

Despite these utterly irrefutable facts and the fact that no officer of the party can defend the endemic dishonesty of Farage, his leadership, his clique of cronies and the NEC on Monday last an elected member of the NEC John West who had clearly proved to be more plausible and more trusted amongst the members that the odious little toady George Curtis, proven above to be beneath contempt it is worth noting before he makes his crass and dishonest report public with his apology in which he lied and did so selectively the roundup of the candidates eventually selected.

You will note a major criteria quoted by the small minded and vindictive failure Curtis in his dotage for blocking John West was that he had no hobbies or interests – I guess relative to the hobbies of Banerman which include inventive and dishonest family history and the fact that if you study his CV it is a sequence of failures and non jobs now propped up in terms of income by the EU!! Of course Bannerman or whatever his name actually is as he is a liar and a fraud not only does not drive but I understand he is not medically considered fit to drive due to his drugs, though this may like his identity be untrue also!

John West of course, unlike Bannerman, has a job and is married to an ELECTED UKIP PPC with extensive experience of Council work and John West counts amongst his hobbies various subjects on which he has been published both in magazines, pamphlets and book form, having a sound grounding in local history, the tribes of the early Briains and also collects, amongst other things, Roman Coins – this is the man the odious George Curtis lied about and to my certain knowledge he lied also about Myself and also regarding Robin Page – had EUkip any dignity it would call for George Curtis’ immediate resignation for bringing the party into disrepute with his dishonesty – but it is hardly surprising that he is dishonest as you may recall he was not elected to the Regional Council but was a placeman of the utterly discredited Tom Wise currently on bail until October 29th. Having been arrested for his criminal activities as in the public domain.

Yet when the elected officer of UKIP chosen and elected by the membership, John West presented to take his seat he was refused on morally reprehensible grounds and when Dr. Eric Edmond attended his place he was dismissed for voicing his concerns at the probity of the selection & election process as asked to do by those who elected him. Interestingly in a Party with less than 10,000 active members West & Edmond represent over 5,000 votes – may I suggest Farage and his corrupt cronies have moved into uncharted waters and their end is now writ large.

The next nail in their coffin will be the result of the Judicial review in which there is no question of their guilt before the Courts but merely how large the forfeit shall be which could well with costs be ?1/2Million – then there are a number of Court cases to come and various inquiries both by OLAF & the British Police – also investigations under both The Gaming Act, and The Lotteries Act, followed up by inquiries by both Customs & Revenue and for receiving.

EUkip is a Busted Flush under its present leadership – there is every likelihood of individuals finding themselves in prison

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