Farage's EUKIP Strategy

SomersetYokel · 11-09-2008, 02:00 PM

Farage has aligned himself and us with the IndDem group in the EU assembly. None of the 6 other parties in IndDem, all from different countries, want to leave the EU. Its the way the EU corrupts parties to its own ends. Membership of a trans-national group is rewarded by the EU with lots more money, bigger offices, chauffeur driven cars, more bureacrats etc. From his Bournemouth speech Farage is now shifting to a reformist/revisionist Ind Dem stance on the EU. His new candidates are almost all Brussels contaminated. Ms Andreassen is on record as not wanting to leave the EU but to reform it. Once elected these people will move to the IndDem reformist agenda faster than you can say Jacques Delors, the poor UKIP footsoldiers will be betrayed and EUKIP will be Brussels based . Can you name one independence movement which was run from the capital of the empire it was trying to escape from?

T.N.Warry · 11-09-2008, 02:10 PM

to answer your last question -NO!

As to your summary as to where Nigel is taking UKIP I believe this to be the case all the evidence points that way. Nigel just wants to keep the EU money going into his bank account. He and all the MEPs to their ever lasting shame went native years ago.

prober · 11-09-2008, 02:34 PM

Yes but so what ? The members have clearly voted in the MEP candidate elections for NF and existing MEPs in full knowledge of the implications , and presumably want UKIP to be that.

So stop wringing your hands and moaning and get a life. If still hooked on politics or the EU ,there are other EU sceptic parties out there, or if you are really worked up, the Brussels branch of Al Queda run courses on what you can do instead. ( leave something to UKIP in your will)

"Have the courage to change what you can change and wisdom to recognize what you cant"

T.N.Warry · 11-09-2008, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by prober

Yes but so what ? The members have clearly voted in the MEP candidate elections for NF and existing MEPs in full knowledge of the implications , and presumably want UKIP to be that.

So stop wringing your hands and moaning and get a life. If still hooked on politics or the EU ,there are other EU sceptic parties out there, or if you are really worked up, the Brussels branch of Al Queda run courses on what you can do instead. ( leave something to UKIP in your will)

"Have the courage to change what you can change and wisdom to recognize what you cant"

Firstly I'm subborn enough to try and change UKIP and secondly the whole trouble is that most of the UKIP members have no idea just how native our MEPs are.

Your support of the status quo clearly tarnishes you with the same level of corruption.

blueblood1920 · 11-09-2008, 03:37 PM

I hope UKIP does reform to this new position as that will be the death of them, might as well just join the Tories again. The BNP will then be the only party pledging to rip up the European Communities Act on the first day they get into Government.

BNP Euro Campaign now started with 100,000 Freedoms being sent out to the public. Also the Website is gearing towards the elections with the latest banner which I rather like:

T.N.Warry · 11-09-2008, 04:00 PM

[quote=blueblood1920;539734]I hope UKIP does reform to this new position as that will be the death of them, might as well just join the Tories again. The BNP will then be the only party pledging to rip up the European Communities Act on the first day they get into Government.

BNP Euro Campaign now started with 100,000 Freedoms being sent out to the public. Also the Website is gearing towards the elections with the latest banner which I rather like:

[/QUOTE

I'll grant you the banner is very good. The trouble with the BNP is that they have never repudiated their connections to extreme racist groups in America. When this is fully realised their bubble will burst.

SponPlague · 11-09-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blueblood1920

Hmm. An encounter with a lion, British or otherwise, ususually leaves you mauled and bloody all over. How very BNP...

Won't LIONS International object, too?

B.A.Ware · 11-09-2008, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by prober

"Have the courage to change what you can change and wisdom to recognize what you cant"

Bet you wouldn't have said that to Emily Pankhurst

stathan · 11-09-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SomersetYokel

Farage has aligned himself and us with the IndDem group in the EU assembly. None of the 6 other parties in IndDem, all from different countries, want to leave the EU. Its the way the EU corrupts parties to its own ends. Membership of a trans-national group is rewarded by the EU with lots more money, bigger offices, chauffeur driven cars, more bureacrats etc. From his Bournemouth speech Farage is now shifting to a reformist/revisionist Ind Dem stance on the EU. His new candidates are almost all Brussels contaminated. Ms Andreassen is on record as not wanting to leave the EU but to reform it. Once elected these people will move to the IndDem reformist agenda faster than you can say Jacques Delors, the poor UKIP footsoldiers will be betrayed and EUKIP will be Brussels based . Can you name one independence movement which was run from the capital of the empire it was trying to escape from?

As the risk of sounding repetitive trolls such as yourself really do need to stop spouting such nonsense.

Only a BNP troll would twist Nigel's remark that rather than only quoting the negative aspects of EU membership rather than also pointing out the positives of leaving the EU into a fantasy " lets not leave the EU but try to reform it"

If you are out to cause trouble lets at least have a decent stab at a bit of clever ingenuity and inventive propaganda please!

blueblood1920 · 11-09-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by T.N.Warry

I'll grant you the banner is very good. The trouble with the BNP is that they have never repudiated their connections to extreme racist groups in America. When this is fully realised their bubble will burst.

There has been links in the past but most of them have been severed now, am not sure if there is actually any decent groups in America other than cranky nut job tossers. I would much rather see the BNP so-operating with people in Europe.

11-09-2008, 02:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
SomersetYokel Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 136	Farage's EUKIP Strategy Farage has aligned himself and us with the IndDem group in the EU assembly. None of the 6 other parties in IndDem, all from different countries, want to leave the EU. Its the way the EU corrupts parties to its own ends. Membership of a trans-national group is rewarded by the EU with lots more money, bigger offices, chauffeur driven cars, more bureacrats etc. From his Bournemouth speech Farage is now shifting to a reformist/revisionist Ind Dem stance on the EU. His new candidates are almost all Brussels contaminated. Ms Andreassen is on record as not wanting to leave the EU but to reform it. Once elected these people will move to the IndDem reformist agenda faster than you can say Jacques Delors, the poor UKIP footsoldiers will be betrayed and EUKIP will be Brussels based . Can you name one independence movement which was run from the capital of the empire it was trying to escape from?

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11-09-2008, 02:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
T.N.Warry Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somerset Posts: 890	to answer your last question -NO! As to your summary as to where Nigel is taking UKIP I believe this to be the case all the evidence points that way. Nigel just wants to keep the EU money going into his bank account. He and all the MEPs to their ever lasting shame went native years ago.

11-09-2008, 02:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
prober Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 854	Yes but so what ? The members have clearly voted in the MEP candidate elections for NF and existing MEPs in full knowledge of the implications , and presumably want UKIP to be that. So stop wringing your hands and moaning and get a life. If still hooked on politics or the EU ,there are other EU sceptic parties out there, or if you are really worked up, the Brussels branch of Al Queda run courses on what you can do instead. ( leave something to UKIP in your will) "Have the courage to change what you can change and wisdom to recognize what you cant"

11-09-2008, 03:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
blueblood1920 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Liverpool Posts: 1,248 Party: BNP	I hope UKIP does reform to this new position as that will be the death of them, might as well just join the Tories again. The BNP will then be the only party pledging to rip up the European Communities Act on the first day they get into Government. BNP Euro Campaign now started with 100,000 Freedoms being sent out to the public. Also the Website is gearing towards the elections with the latest banner which I rather like:

11-09-2008, 04:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
T.N.Warry Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Somerset Posts: 890	[quote=blueblood1920;539734]I hope UKIP does reform to this new position as that will be the death of them, might as well just join the Tories again. The BNP will then be the only party pledging to rip up the European Communities Act on the first day they get into Government. BNP Euro Campaign now started with 100,000 Freedoms being sent out to the public. Also the Website is gearing towards the elections with the latest banner which I rather like: [/QUOTE I'll grant you the banner is very good. The trouble with the BNP is that they have never repudiated their connections to extreme racist groups in America. When this is fully realised their bubble will burst.