Dr North on Nigel Farage. Not pretty.

Jeff · 08-09-2008, 08:55 PM

I never put a time limit on him staying as Leader but I still feel like I should continue to call for him to go.

Making the call for him to go from now until next June is what I would really like to do but I will hold off in the event that there is a miracle and UKIP is saved by having some MEPs elected in June.

This holding off is not done to help Farage,but to help UKIP a little.

Deep down we knew he would be bad for the party.

Niall Warry · 08-09-2008, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

I never put a time limit on him staying as Leader but I still feel like I should continue to call for him to go.

Making the call for him to go from now until next June is what I would really like to do but I will hold off in the event that there is a miracle and UKIP is saved by having some MEPs elected in June.

This holding off is not done to help Farage,but to help UKIP a little.

Deep down we knew he would be bad for the party.

I think you are wrong Niigel should be given NO breathing space.

Resigned Member · 08-09-2008, 09:13 PM

It looks like Farage is arranging a massive legal financial **** up with the promotion of andreasen breaking all the rules. The present 'cunning plan' is for her to register f or a few weeks in a bedsit in Paddington near Campbell aka Campbell Bannerman as proof of her UK 'residency.'This will fall foul of the law and could lead to a threat to any UKIP elected MEP.

Purging The Liberal · 08-09-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by T.N.Warry

I think you are wrong Niigel should be given NO breathing space.

Who would replace him? Is there another Tory boy waiting in the wings?

SponPlague · 08-09-2008, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Resigned Member

It looks like Farage is arranging a massive legal financial **** up with the promotion of andreasen breaking all the rules. The present 'cunning plan' is for her to register f or a few weeks in a bedsit in Paddington near Campbell aka Campbell Bannerman as proof of her UK 'residency.'This will fall foul of the law and could lead to a threat to any UKIP elected MEP.

Angels and ministers of grace preserve UKIP! (I know the quote says "us", but I'm not a member any more)

Andrew Constantine · 08-09-2008, 09:21 PM

The June 2009 European elections are a great opportunity to align the anti-EU movement with love of England. Mr Farage for whatever personal reasons does not wish to play the English card. Nothing to stop former or present UKIP members doing so.

If UKIP perform poorly next June in the European elections, it will be very bad news for the anti-EU campaigners (of whom I am one). It might take the anti-EU movement many years to build itself up even to the present credibility and resources of UKIP.

Some UKIP members seem very like those Labour MPs wanting to get rid of Brown, but refusing to act. Short term pain hurts now, but a long term gain endures.

Millennium3 · 08-09-2008, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine

The June 2009 European elections are a great opportunity to align the anti-EU movement with love of England. Mr Farage for whatever personal reasons does not wish to play the English card. Nothing to stop former or present UKIP members doing so.

If UKIP perform poorly next June in the European elections, it will be very bad news for the anti-EU campaigners (of whom I am one). It might take the anti-EU movement many years to build itself up even to the present credibility and resources of UKIP.

Some UKIP members seem very like those Labour MPs wanting to get rid of Brown, but refusing to act. Short term pain hurts now, but a long term gain endures.

I agree with your general sentiments, however, there is no reason for UKIP not to reform once the present leadership has gone. Constituency parties will be untouched and they are the root of any UKIP strength - although it is important not to act hastily to ensure that whatever changes are made are supported by the majority.

I certainly believe that the eurosceptic parties should act in alliance, perhaps not contesting a seat where another eurosceptic party is stronger.

Jeff · 09-09-2008, 02:43 PM

M3,Would this alliance of not contesting the same seats include the BNP?

Millennium3 · 09-09-2008, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff

M3,Would this alliance of not contesting the same seats include the BNP?

It would not be my wish.

Jeff · 09-09-2008, 02:50 PM

Thats good,nor would it be my wish for them to be in an alliance with other eurosceptic parties.

08-09-2008, 09:21 PM	#16 (permalink)
Andrew Constantine Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,051 Party: Free England Party	UKIP has to change The June 2009 European elections are a great opportunity to align the anti-EU movement with love of England. Mr Farage for whatever personal reasons does not wish to play the English card. Nothing to stop former or present UKIP members doing so. If UKIP perform poorly next June in the European elections, it will be very bad news for the anti-EU campaigners (of whom I am one). It might take the anti-EU movement many years to build itself up even to the present credibility and resources of UKIP. Some UKIP members seem very like those Labour MPs wanting to get rid of Brown, but refusing to act. Short term pain hurts now, but a long term gain endures. __________________ Andrew Constantine says: The EU is a French-German racket and is incompatible with democracy. An independent England will quit the EU forthwith. Free England Party - Independence for England http://www.freeengland.com Signatory to The English Claim of Right http://englishclaimofright.com The Steadfast Trust http://steadfasttrust.org.uk

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08-09-2008, 08:55 PM	#11 (permalink)
Jeff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 376 Party: Free England Party	I never put a time limit on him staying as Leader but I still feel like I should continue to call for him to go. Making the call for him to go from now until next June is what I would really like to do but I will hold off in the event that there is a miracle and UKIP is saved by having some MEPs elected in June. This holding off is not done to help Farage,but to help UKIP a little. Deep down we knew he would be bad for the party.

08-09-2008, 09:13 PM	#13 (permalink)
Resigned Member Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 160	It looks like Farage is arranging a massive legal financial **** up with the promotion of andreasen breaking all the rules. The present 'cunning plan' is for her to register f or a few weeks in a bedsit in Paddington near Campbell aka Campbell Bannerman as proof of her UK 'residency.'This will fall foul of the law and could lead to a threat to any UKIP elected MEP.

09-09-2008, 02:43 PM	#18 (permalink)
Jeff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 376 Party: Free England Party	M3,Would this alliance of not contesting the same seats include the BNP?

09-09-2008, 02:50 PM	#20 (permalink)
Jeff Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 376 Party: Free England Party	Thats good,nor would it be my wish for them to be in an alliance with other eurosceptic parties.