ryansoton

My reasons for leaving UKIP had nothing to do with Nigel.

If Nigel wasnt leader then UKIP would have no public face, he is an asset to the party.

Jeff

I'm certainly not juvenile DED,but I do find it kind of funny that within a very short time of anyone posting something about Farage you are on here castigating everyone,this makes me chuckle usually.

What do you expect people to think of you,you are so predictable and seen as the Leaderships gofer.

I myself honestly see you as a political quisling for the Leadership group,thats how you come across.

Its quite admirable how you spring forward like this but rather nieve of you too.

douglas denny

On the brink of tears for the poor deluded fools here. Like the song (all together now..)
'When will they ever learn ".......

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douglas denny

No I am not a Leadership sycophant; that's just your impression. There are things I have opposed in the NEC, and in the SE committee before that, stopping the Leader getting what he wants for example - but you know nothing of that. Nor will I tell you.
I like to think Nigel knows I am one of the few people who he has no need to be worried about having ambition to take his place, and, being a Northerner, will tell him exactly what I think to be true, or my opinion as to the best way forward - whether that goes along with his ideas or not!
If there is one thing which is the greatest value as a commodity in politics is being able to trust someone absolutely -who will tell you exactly what they think without any prejudice at all, without the slightest worry whether you will like it or not.

As for postings here, I just correct the more lurid nonsense talked about the "leadership" - most of which is fantasy based on pure ignorance - which is understandable in that ignorance is going to engender speculation, but the speculation is just rubbish mostly and gets way out of hand.

There are a lot here who simply don't like NF - full stop. This place attracts them and they gather together in their comfortable little clique. They rabbit-on about how terrible he is and feel much better for it - whilst the world just keeps turning under their feet whilst they waste their time - and Nigel Farage and UKIP just keep-on keeping-on regardless. It's understandable how frustrated they must get.
Well they must lump it until he stands down for another Leader at the next leadership contest.

What I find amusing is all the poison talked about him here which is just rubbish. I have said it many times - NF is no angel but he is a bloomin good 'front' for UKIP and the 'Leader' is the one who tends to get what little media attention there is. At that he is superb. UKIP would be much worse off without his being at the forefront of the media circus.

His leadership within the party is different in style to Knapman, but workable and effective. Understandably, he has no time for fools and idiots - and there are plenty around of those who want to frustrate his getting-on with things. No surprise if he gets short with people sometimes - he is under great pressure and few take that into account.
I am glad John has stood down because I think he could do with the rest from it. Although he has been one of the best chairmen ever I have come across in committees, the pressure was so stressful I suggested he would be better giving it a rest for someone else a few months ago. I reckon it should only be done for a year by anyone - and that is probably too much for any soul to endure.

You will not want me to point out that all this kind of anti-Leader rubbish went on about Knapman too - and Titford before him. It's all just froth and blather on this daft forum. That's why no one but me posts here from UKIP NEC. (which means I must be daft too I expect).

What you lot don't like is my support for the leadership. Well you can lump that too - as I shall continue to support the leadership in public - and oppose in private if I think it necessary. You do not seem to understand there is a difference between support and sycophancy. I'm into the former - that does not make me a sycophant.

I also drivel-on about other things too which you seem not to have noticed. I have been castigated by Warry for going-on about the nonsense of man-made global warming for example. Does that make me a Farage sycophant too?

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Mark Croucher

I couldn't agree more. Without an electoral mandate, the leader is just another person. This has always been the problem with the idea of spokesmen who are not MEPs - who exactly would care what they said?

Rgds

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Millennium3

That would explain the BNP's greater popularity?

Jeff

So how often have all these UKIP MEPs been interviewed on tv then Mark in the last 3 months or so?

Its a fact that even the UKIP Members dont know who these invisible MEPs are, never mind the UK Electorate.

With regard to the UKIP MEPs fronting the party,could you tell me which particular fronting they have all done for UKIP in the last 3 months or so in this country kernow?

Where should I go to see or speak to them in the UK?

Can you tell me some of their work and recent accomplishments this year in the UK?

Niall Warry

Sadly Mark you are very blinkered and only see one side of the UKIP coin.

A leader needs to nurture his/her party something Nigel fails to do. Nobody, even GLW, deny Nigel is good with the media so even if he wasn't leader he could still do this.

Nigel is an autocratic control freak who is an appauling administrator and not even interested in appointing somebody who is. IMO the reason is because Nigel has in the main been seduced by the EUs money and doesn't want anyone rocking his cosy boat.

Millennium3

All of the evidence seems to show that NF is concerned almost entirely by image and has little concern for substance.

Niall Warry

Here here. Response please Mark.