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Old 06-09-2008, 08:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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1) Why would I wish to prove anything to you?
2) How would I prove anything to you even if I wished too?
3) If you'd gone you could have satisfied yourself rather than rely on me telling you!
4) Are you seriously asking me if I mean a different 700 people each day?

I am not bothered if you believe me or not but as you are normally such a stickler for the truth and weren't there yourself then you may have to depend on my counting rather than the ultimately inaccurate fantasy wishes of your pony tailed whacko friend whose posted estimate fell so far short of reality.

I'm sorry that you both will be so disappointed at the eventual quite reasonable attendance figures.
All I'm asking is are you saying 350 on each day making 700???

Is that too much to ask or do you have something to hide????
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I did a rough count of the people in the hall during NFs speech on Friday.
My estimate was @450-500 present. There may have been some who were not present for that speech but I would suspect the overwhelming majority would have been.
I didn't attend today so I have no idea of that one.
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All I'm asking is are you saying 350 on each day making 700???

Is that too much to ask or do you have something to hide????


Yes it was 299 on the first day and a completely different 289 people on the second when everything was repeated because everyone was different and hadn't heard the first days proceedings.




You really want to get out more!


Just to complete this sad little exchange which I can only contribute too because I knew that yourself and the bitter twisted one would be demanding the true facts so I counted them all in and all back out again just for you.

I counted at one time roughly 580 people on the first morning and observed people coming and going in between just as people do and throughout the day there was a steady stream of people paying at the door I revised my conservative (excuse the pun) estimate to upwards of 650 people and was informed by a trusted source that my estimate was about 35 to 40 too low.

Please let me know if required and I may be able to let you know all their names and addresses as well.

Once again apologies for your disappointment
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Yesterdays Farage speech at the Conference has just ended,it was on the Parliament channel.(81 on my tv).They showed different views od the audience but hard to determine numbers,certainly in the hundreds though.Farage finished of asking them all to give generously.
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To be perfectly honest I'd be very careful who you listen too if that is typical of the information that they are giving you.

There were marginally just under 700 there so for someone to suggest to you about 250 would intimate that they are either pulling your leg or are a professionaL troublemaker.
The estimate was based on professinal media reps studying the tv footage of NFs speech, and observing "tricks of the trade": Echo on, no pullback at end etc.

If you have actual figures to show average attendance over the two days, I'd be delighted to see 'em. And be proven wrong
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The estimate was based on professinal media reps studying the tv footage of NFs speech, and observing "tricks of the trade": Echo on, no pullback at end etc.

If you have actual figures to show average attendance over the two days, I'd be delighted to see 'em. And be proven wrong
Update: Have just seen your later post and am happy to accept your figures...
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Yes it was 299 on the first day and a completely different 289 people on the second when everything was repeated because everyone was different and hadn't heard the first days proceedings.




You really want to get out more!


Just to complete this sad little exchange which I can only contribute too because I knew that yourself and the bitter twisted one would be demanding the true facts so I counted them all in and all back out again just for you.

I counted at one time roughly 580 people on the first morning and observed people coming and going in between just as people do and throughout the day there was a steady stream of people paying at the door I revised my conservative (excuse the pun) estimate to upwards of 650 people and was informed by a trusted source that my estimate was about 35 to 40 too low.

Please let me know if required and I may be able to let you know all their names and addresses as well.

Once again apologies for your disappointment
NO disappointment just interested to get the facts
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Ok I appreciate that

The situation is this.

I am no party sycophant and people such as Niall and his idiotic pal make the huge mistake of imagining that they are far more intelligent and better informed than the rest of us.

They also make the huge mistake of labelling anyone who remains in a party that they despise as condoning their perceived corruption of the party.

There are far more intelligent and switched on people in the party than these two bores and those are well aware of deficiencies and things that need to change and work towards that end as UKIP are the only show in town regarding the EU.


I have no interest or desire in manipulating figures as the only figures that count are voting figures.

I counted the attendance personally because.

a) I'm a rather sad individual and it interested me as to how many attended.

b) I knew that this would be a topic of conversation and misinformation by the pony tailed idiot.

c) I purposefully kept my estimate slightly on the low side so as not to exaggerate and a well informed and trusted source confirmed to me that my original real estimate was virtually smack on.
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Ok I appreciate that

The situation is this.

I am no party sycophant and people such as Niall and his idiotic pal make the huge mistake of imagining that they are far more intelligent and better informed than the rest of us.

They also make the huge mistake of labelling anyone who remains in a party that they despise as condoning their perceived corruption of the party.

There are far more intelligent and switched on people in the party than these two bores and those are well aware of deficiencies and things that need to change and work towards that end as UKIP are the only show in town regarding the EU.


I have no interest or desire in manipulating figures as the only figures that count are voting figures.

I counted the attendance personally because.

a) I'm a rather sad individual and it interested me as to how many attended.

b) I knew that this would be a topic of conversation and misinformation by the pony tailed idiot.

c) I purposefully kept my estimate slightly on the low side so as not to exaggerate and a well informed and trusted source confirmed to me that my original real estimate was virtually smack on.
Reforming UKIP needs all sorts of tactics my criticisms of Nigel and his cabal is IMO useful. GLWs relentless campaign to cleam up UKIP has also born fruit. You can be be personally rude about him if you think that constructive but few have done more to expose the corruption at the heart of UKIP. Your rudeness does you no credit.
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I counted the attendance personally because.

a) I'm a rather sad individual and it interested me as to how many attended.
I was just as sad last year
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