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Old 12-09-2008, 03:35 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Marta should NOT be a candidate. She's not eligable. There's no debate. End of argument . Just get her off the list.
The sooner Steve H. gets his well deserved #2 slot, the better
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:16 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Perhaps something came out in his police check so he had no choice, purely speculation on my behalf.
I am totally disgusted that anyone would post such a "speculation" on any public forum. It is unfounded and baseless rumors like this that lead to considerable distress for the person at whom they are aimed. Greg Beaman has worked tirelessly for UKIP for many years. I admit we have not alweays agreed 100% on everything but he was always professional and it never became personal. I always enjoyed a pint and a crack with him. Should I star a thread "speculating" that B.A.Ware is the sort of person Telford Council might not want in their public parks?
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Old 12-09-2008, 06:26 PM   #23 (permalink)
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oh , go on then....... we should not have to put up with political correctness on the internet! Its only speculation after all !!!!!!!!
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:12 PM   #24 (permalink)
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oh , go on then....... we should not have to put up with political correctness on the internet! Its only speculation after all !!!!!!!!
However not sure the law would look on it like that, lets not put the admin of this site in a sticky situation.
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Old 12-09-2008, 08:29 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I am totally disgusted that anyone would post such a "speculation" on any public forum. It is unfounded and baseless rumors like this that lead to considerable distress for the person at whom they are aimed. Greg Beaman has worked tirelessly for UKIP for many years. I admit we have not alweays agreed 100% on everything but he was always professional and it never became personal. I always enjoyed a pint and a crack with him. Should I star a thread "speculating" that B.A.Ware is the sort of person Telford Council might not want in their public parks?
Sorry if it offended you, it was only speculation. I don't know Greg i was just throwing in an idea of to why he suddenly jacked it all in.

By the way what has Telford got to do with anything i live in Birmingham
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Old 12-09-2008, 09:22 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Farage put pressure on Beaman to stand down. This was supplemented by financial pressure requiring Beaman to toe the party line. Its as simple as that as NF likes to say.
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By the way what has Telford got to do with anything i live in Birmingham
They are one of the few remaining refuges from the hustle and bustle of urban life - the perfect spot for a sandwich away from the office or a gentle stroll in the fresh air. Except, it appears in Telford, Shropshire, where park staff have been ordered to stop and quiz people using the town's park who are not accompanied by a child. They face having to explain what they are doing in the park and could be thrown out by park wardens or reported to police if they remained unconvinced.

The local council - which manages the 170 hectare Telford Town Park - says the policy is a 'common sense approach' aimed at safeguarding children using the park and follows similar guidance to staff at its leisure centres and libraries. A spokesman said only those deemed to be 'acting suspiciously' would be stopped and questioned. But park users accused it of 'authoritarian madness' and said the ruling risked panicking parents about the dangers children faced from potential paedophiles.

The policy came to light after two environmental campaigners dressed as penguins were thrown out of the park last month when caught handing out leaflets on climate change. Telford & Wrekin Council said Rachel Whittaker and Neil Donaldson were ejected because they had not undergone Criminal Records Bureau checks or risk assessments before entering the park - a requirement under the Child Protection Act.

David Ottley, Telford & Wrekin's sports and recreation manager, said in a letter to a member of the public over that issue: 'Our Town Park staff approach adults that are not associated with any children in the Town Park and request the reason for them being there. 'In particular, this applies to those areas where children or more vulnerable groups gather, such as play facilities and the entrances to play areas. This is a child safety precautionary measure which members of staff will continue to undertake as and when necessary.'

Miss Whittaker, 34, from Wellington, near Telford, said the policy carried a 'dangerous implication that if you have a child with you than everything is okay and you won't be questioned.' She added: 'It is dangerous as well as frightening people, it could start a hysterical society and punishes people who have done nothing wrong while giving an outlet for those with sinister motives a way of getting around it.'

Park user Edna Pearson, 70, part-time pub worker, yesterday said the policy was 'over the top'. Mrs Pearson said: 'It's the men you feel sorry for - unless you have got a dog with you, you cannot go for a walk anywhere on your own any more. 'Kids shouldn't be left by themselves anyway and some paedophiles have children with them.'

Former childcare social worker John Evans said: 'It is authoritarian madness which can only be based on ignorance. It is absurd, it is insulting and what's more it is dangerous as it panics people about the dangers their children face.' Adrian Voce, director of Play England, a lottery-funded branch of the National Children's Bureau which advises local authorities on child play provision, said the policy appeared 'odd' and the authority's guidance to park wardens may have been 'excessively cautious'.

The park, situated close to the town centre, is the only staffed park in the borough and is well used by office workers in their lunch hours. It also has a popular children's play area, woodland walks and a mini road train for families to enjoy. Ron Odunayia, Director of Community Services at the council, said: 'We are not talking about a blanket policy covering everybody who enjoys our Town Park. 'However, if someone is acting in a suspicious manner or acting in an inappropriate way then, of course, our staff reserve the right to asks questions. 'Our approach is in certain circumstances where an individual's behaviour is deemed strange or suspicious rather than as a general rule.'

Councillor Denis Allen, cabinet member for community services, added that as landowner of the park, the Tory-run authority had child protection responsibilities and a duty of care. He said anyone approached would be treated 'sensitively, and in a fair and even-handed manner', but confirmed that the police or child protection services would be informed, if appropriate.

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Old 12-09-2008, 11:11 PM   #28 (permalink)
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some paedophiles have children with them.'
I think she meant to say .... MOST paedophiles have children with them

(and that's why Telford's park policy doesnt add up!)

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Old 14-09-2008, 03:05 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I have spent some time making and maintaining this article on Wiki so all the parties and their candidates are in one place. If this news about Greg is true then I'l remove his name (or someone can do it, heh, being Wiki =))

Will this mean he is not standing as the PPC in Wyre & Preston North ?


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Old 15-09-2008, 05:25 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I read this with interest. I can amend the article below if this is confirmed. Does this mean that Greg is no longer PPC in Wyre and Preston North ?

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