Niall Warry

Fortunately I sense on this forum your opinion DED counts for very little.

What I'm not yet sure about is whether you are wittingly or unwittingly propping up the corruption at the heart of UKIP?

This make you either a fool or corrupt yourself?

douglas denny

There is no corruption in UKIP.
That is a pigment of your highly coloured imagination.
You are deluded because of the brainwashing or foolish adulation you have from and for Dracul himself -GLW.

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If there was corruption I would have witnessed it.
I have not.
If I witnessed any I should expose it, of that you can be certain.
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The nearest possibility which you will no doubt point to, is the Tom Wise business. I retort there has never been presented to me at any time to this day any evidence of corruption. Nor have you seen any either of that I am sure. It is not in the public domain if it exists.

I am also certain in general you do not know what you are talking about; it is all innuendo and suspicion. Never hard facts. You are the fool Niall. you prove yourself to be so constantly to me, and strive very hard to re-inforce it all the time.

Have you ever been elected to any local government position? or high office anywhere in any large organisation to witness these things of which you so easily loose your mouth-off about?

You glibly spout about corruption when it is obvious you have no real knowledge of it

......but I do have such knowledge, and I dealt with it to my own detriment - knowingly and willingly so.

How dare you - who sits in a chair, clacking into your computer, theorising about these matters of which you have never probably even come into contact, try and tell me about corruption and that I am corrupt. Go out and learn, 'get some in' - then come back and I might listen. You are not even wet behind the ears yet in such matters.

I effectively gave up my council seat and the almost certainty of eventually becoming Lord Mayor of Portsmouth - and knowing this as it was promised so by the Leader of the Council, and how? -by exposing potential corruption (which was never proven as it never came to an official investigation which is what I pressed for) in a building deal which was worth over £3million+.
It reached an early-day motion in parliament which I manouvered by forcing the MP into a position where his colleagues insisted it be opened-up at parliamentary level. I also had to do so by going public in the Portsmouth newspaper - and against the wishes of my own colleagues in the Conservative group, which resulted later in inevitable deselection and isolation.

So don't tell me about corruption -
I know what it is,
I am not seduced by it,
I can withstand promises of promotion and even Lord Mayoralships if only I left off - and threats later when I would not.
I have proved it by doing so already. If you doubt any of this ask Mikeuk. He knows some of it.

So Niall -Where are YOU in the corruption stakes eh?
(A little bird tells me, so I have heard, of UKIP's data base and other confidential information being copied and utilised by someone who was in a position in the party offices to do so when they were there in a position of trust. Possibly even giving that information to GLW. Would that be corruption if true?)
Can you prove you are incorruptible Niall?

I can ... and have already.

DED.
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quote from another thread:

T N Warry.
"You may be confused as I was sacked from Birmingham" (!)

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SponPlague

The database has ben copied several times, in the past Doug. GLW used it to send a mailshot advising members to back Jeffrey Titford over Rodney Atkinson - years before Birmingham and Niall's involvement...

Niall Warry

Of course you are right but facts don't get in the way of DED's ramblings!!

AS to DED not seeing the undoubted corruption in UKIP I believe he is/was an Optician.........................

Yup you guessed it DED needs a new pair of glasses

SponPlague

As one who took part in a rigged NEC election, Doug, I can assure you that, at least in the past, there has been corruption...

Raymond Finch

Douglas.

I remain a committed member.
However, this particular missive from GLW seemed pertinent to our forthcoming convention.
I did not say I believed a word of it nor do I believe in calling names. Mr Lance-Watkins' mails usually come to our notice eventually and I thought it would be a basis for discussion.
Particularly as it predicted one of the MEP list toppers stepping down as well as the Party Chairman.
Obviously not!

Mikeuk

As I have no right of audience in the High Court - except when acting as claimant-in-person - of course I am not acting for Chris.

Are all Canadians stupid or is it just something they did when they took your brains out.

Mikeuk

Glad you're amused Gary.

You won't be...

I was also amused BTW to learn that you were not just an official London Borough candidate for the National Front

You were also Regional Organiser for the National Front, even acclaimed in a Channel 5 documentary, so I'm told.

Errr...now you did tell UKIP all these facts when you joined, didn't you?

Mikeuk

Actually, Ray, not everything GLW writes is rubbish.What he wrote about snout-in-trough Wise was 100% correct.

But you must be carefully about reposting these things.If you are a homeowner and someone wants to sue they will go for you. I would if I were in their shoes.

And, contrary to what the self-important Canadian idiot with the Micky Mouse name claims I have no intention of suing you for libel

Geoffrey Collier

Douglas D. We are delighted that you are in a position to assure us all, that there is no corruption in UKIP. Having sat on the NEC when they presided over an ILLEGAL lottery, drawn twice annually over many years, can you name the bank, account number, and account holders names of that bank deposit into which the money was paid? Why was the Westminster PO Box number, registered at the business premises of a non-UKIP member, when it should have been with Head Office?

Unless you can provide this information, your assurance is meaningless. An estimated £30,000 was raised annually through these lotteries, but how much was finally transferred to H.O? Should one of your NEC colleagues request to see this information, can he/she be assured of your support in the that quest for its production?

This is a nice easy one by which you can affirm your claims and assurances. We have, as members, been financially exploited for far too long; now we must see the evidence.