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Old 24-08-2008, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OK forget the past forget any problems the media may dig up in the future what do you expect UKIP to achieve in the next 3 years and to what end??
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OK forget the past forget any problems the media may dig up in the future what do you expect UKIP to achieve in the next 3 years and to what end??
Try this for the future:

UKIP will achieve more MEPs than before at the EU elections.
This will cause a stir in the traditional parties who will have to consider how to deal with the political threat.
UKIP will be in a better position at the following General election because of the changing, increasingly anti-EU political climate.
Bob Spink will retain his seat.
The Tories will win with a small majority, but will loose about thirty to forty seats because of UKIP intervening, robbing then of a strong majority.

The general situation vis a vis the EU will remain similar to now until the general election after next, by which time the Euro currency will have collapsed. It might just be possible for Britain to remove itself from the EU entirely if the Euro currency collapses before the second GE fom now; and thereby the people consider association with the EU is not a good thing. This I consider unlikely; the people are too brainwashed and too well fed to care.

The EU will probably before then, but certainly if the currency collapses, be forced into metamorphosing into a "two-speed" Europe of a core of fully politically integrated countries, including the usual suspects (France Germany Belgium Luxembourg) and a peripheral outer rim of secondary countries with looser political association, and even looser economic association - including Britain and Holland, possibly Ireland.
A general political re-assessment of Britain and the EU will have occurred. UKIP will have assured Britain remains outside of a fully integrated EU. Without UKIP, Britain would already by now have been part of a fully integrated EU.

In a long timescale (50? 100? to 150 years?) Britain will slowly integrate with the central core as the word divides into four major economic/political areas:- Europe.(including Russia); The Americas; The Pacific basin countries (including Australia and NZ); and Asia (including China, Japan Korea Phillipines etc).
By then there will be a central world government agency controlling the economic relationships between the areas.

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Try this for the future:

UKIP will achieve more MEPs than before at the EU elections.
This will cause a stir in the traditional parties who will have to consider how to deal with the political threat.
UKIP will be in a better position at the following General election because of the changing, increasingly anti-EU political climate.
Bob Spink will retain his seat.

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I agree with you as far as that, everything else is too far into the future!
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Assuming I were elected as an MEP I would expect to be in the frame in the General Election at Eastleigh. All of our MEPs should be in this position. An MEP should be in the situation that they are seen by the electorate as a viable candidate.
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Also important:
- Survive decimation at the 2009 EU elections.
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Here is what I believe will happen.

No clear strategy or tactics set out for the next few years. Nigel still appears on TV occassionally but little else of value happens. The branches are unsupported as membership continues to decline. This leads to less MEPs at the Euro Election as UKIP is shown to be corrupt and irrelevant. No MPs at the GE as Spink looses his seat. There were no deals with the Tories as they realised UKIP was a spent force. The battle to get out the EU rests with other groups and perhaps a certain rich individual. The British population still register around 65% who want out the EU.

The UK's future in the EU is left to events in the EU which gradually worsen. Westminster MP's led by the BOO types gradually realise the game is up and start to prepare for life after the EU as the Euro crashes and countries revert to national self interest.

UKIPs part in getting the UK out the EU will have been minimal and will go down in history as a wasted opportunity. A Party that promised so much and delivered little. Ironically it will be recorded that UKIPs MEPs went native.

What would I like. Well a Party free of scandal ,principled and totally transparent and honest. Punches well above its weight by targeted interventions in General elections and uses its success in the Euro Elections to carry out the mundane and un-glamorous task of educating the UK on the reason why the EU is bad for us.Branches supported with regular leaflets always in time before the event happens! MEPs salaries and expenses open for all to see playing by all the rules and a commitment that all EU money including pensions should be used to further our aim of getting the UK out the EU.

I don't expect my wish list to happen any more than pigs might fly - sad but true!
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