GLW Data Base Poll

Bob FM · 23-08-2008, 05:59 PM

'This gentleman, BobFM, has already used this forum
to entice posters to join the BNP. '
GC you are a liar, now withdraw your comment.

Please explain why is it acceptable to post GLW's ravings at times without accreditation but not to ask those on this forum anonymously if they have consented to being on GLW mailing list. Could it just be as the poll is showing that 3 to 1 never consented.

Bett those on my mailing list are grouped into the various sectors of my business or membership activities. I only ever block email within those specific groups, and on the odd occasion I have been asked to remove someone I have done so on immediately receiving that request, it takes seconds.

SponPlague · 23-08-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bett Nwar

To avoid meeting Boob FM don't drink in Swindon - you know it makes sense!

Having spent my industrial training year there, I've done a lot of happy drinking in Swindon

SponPlague · 23-08-2008, 06:09 PM

Greg has asked me to post the following explanation of his policy for removing emails:

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Hi,

Since you have engaged with The BF M perhaps you could point out that it was he who CHOSE to enter politics and HE who CHOSE to influence people with his bullying and mangled utterances on YouTube & elsewhere he has thus justified ANYONE to lobby him in whatever way they wish, to seek to influence him.

If he can’t stand the heat best he gets out of the kitchen!

Bob claims to have asked me to remove him – he has never asked, it is not in his nature to be polite, we all know he would demand! Read the comments distortions and lies he has put on YouTube and the Forum. I concede he may be so illiterate he has failed to note my oft made comment that eMails sent to my BT address are NOT read and all but a few exclusions are auto deleted to cut down spam.

As for Denny he has established himself as a serial dissembler and self important contrarian, on this Forum alone, and is of absolutely no consequence in his own right, it is merely the damage he has done UKIP that matters, by supporting corruption. Indeed he has made much of asking to be removed from my mailing list but clearly he seeks to damage and destroy UKIP with his dishonesty and has aided and abetted the rise of EUkip. I have FREQUENTLY mailed a fuller caveat that I will NOT remove people who CHOOSE to take a role seeking to influence people, as what goes around comes around! Anyone who supports the corruption and dishonesty of EUkip by continued support clearly can expect to remain on the list where since they support corruption I will seek to inform them of that corruption.

ALL eMail addresses which I use have been raised from the public domain and in addition far more addresses have been added by those requesting my eMails or seeking to influence me with theirs than have EVER asked me to remove them. Obviously I do not act when ordered or abused. I note Bob Feel Martinis is such an inadequate that as a politician he knows only how to be offensive yet can not convince anyone but his shaving mirror, is unable to answer comments on YouTube and seeks to hide behind the skirts of preventing comments from those who disagree with him on You Tube and abusing them where they have no opportunity to reply!

As stated on my eMails EUkip must be cleaned up to restore UKIP as a party people of integrity and morality could patriotically vote for.

May I remind those who support EUkip and the damage it is doing of a couple of quotes from Harry Truman:

"It doesn't matter how big a ranch ya' own, or how many cows ya' brand, the size of your funeral is still gonna depend on the weather."
-Harry Truman.

............ ......... ......... ......... ........

[color=blue]After President Truman retired from office in 1952, he was left with an income consisting of basically just a U.S. Army pension, reported to have been only $13,507.72 a year. Congress, noting that he was paying for his stamps and personally licking them, granted him an "allowance" and, later, a retroactive pension of $25,000 per year. When offered corporate positions at large salaries, he declined, stating, "You don't want me. You want the office of the president, and that doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the American people and it's not for sale."

Even later, on May 6, 1971, when Congress was preparing to award him the Medal of Honor on his 87th birthday, he refused to accept it, writing, "I don't consider that I have done anything which should be the reason for any award, Congressional or otherwise."

We now see that other past presidents, have found a new level of success in cashing in on the presidency, resulting in untold wealth. Today,
many in Congress also have found a way to become quite wealthy while enjoying the fruits of their offices. Obviously, political offices are now for sale.

Good old Harry Truman could have been correct when he observed:
"My choice early in life was either to be a piano player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference. I, for one, believe the piano player job to be much more honorable than current politicians."

Can those who support the corruption and incompetence that is EUkip not see they betray these fundamental principles?

May I suggest that the inadequates sheltering their scams and self importance might care to publish my Caterpillars & Butterflies series in full and line by line on The Forum and establish their inaccuracy, rather than bellowing how unfair it is that I seek to circulate the truth and supporting facts to defend my Country, and principles and values in which I believe.

Regards,
Greg L-W.
01291 – 62 65 62
Greg Lance Watkins (Greg@GlanceBack.Demon.co.UK)

Bob FM · 23-08-2008, 06:17 PM

Spon, as you seem now also to be acting as agent for GLW, I have no intention of displaying here the numerous 'polite' attempts to get him to remove me from his list, although quite frankly given his constant abuse of others he has a cheek expecting different treatment. 'Please ask him politely on my behalf to remove my email and any other of my personal information from his data bases'

Oh just for the record. I allowed GLW to post without reply on Youtube for several weeks before blocking his posts. I also reported him to Youtube for site abuse. Here is just one example as he choses yet again to distort the truth, he does done exactly the same on all my you tube videos.

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Bob: again you show yourself to be a very poor judge - saying 'Well said DD. My dad always to use to say you are judged by the company you keep' Douglas Denny a EUkip NEC member & full time toady whom you support has just been proven, yet again, to have lied and misled you by an NEC member at the time. Denny WAS sacked as Returning Officer by the NEC for corruption & dishonesty, whether subsequently given the 'fig leaf' of resigning for his dishonesty I can not confirm. Appology? Not man enough?
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Robert Feel Martinis you make a fool of yourself again - you state 'Do you have documentary proof that Wise spent £8000 or are you just repeating what your honest, upstanding, truthful friend GLW told you.'
No sir, insulting and offensive as you are, I appreciate your knowledge is very limited but that you do not know various facts does not make them other than FACT. It is a matter of public record that Tom Wise EUkip MEP squandered £8,000 seeking to suppress the truth of his crimes as reported
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Hi, I note from what was UKIPForum until EUkip slid into the gutter that you still have no understanding of democracy or debate clearly preffering the EU model of shouting loudest, repeating your lies, hearing no evil by closing your eyes nor hearing but loudly proclaiming your idiotic opinions without evidence, fact, history, detail or substantive understanding backed by knowledge. It is the denial of facts that are KNOWN that make you look so foolish. EUkip has become a political irrelevance.
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Bob you lied & said "You claim many things Greg, none of which are verifiable" you continued with uncertainty " I will however attempt to do so in regard to your latest claims, as I do have contacts in both 'camps' you mention" Since you have been unable to establish your fantasies since you have time having been kicked off what was UKIPForum yet again; this time for gross libel & offensive & obsessive behaviour perhaps you could take the time to write an apology for your lies about me - thanks.
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QUOTE Bob on what was UKIPForum before UKIP collapsed and became EUkip: 'It is not the message it's the manner of delivery. I am far from being thin skinned, however I was always taught, that manners cost nothing, and that if one resorts to abuses one has lost the argument' - clearly from your hectoring, illmannered & offensive bullying manner you learned very little of what you were taught. Again & again you show yourself in the worst of light and totally lacking in manners as many pointed out!
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Bob - well done, by stimulating some conversation in the comments section you have managed to raise the profile of your Video clip in 9 months had about 100 hits, presumably reflecting your supporters, the inclusion on other Forums & people visiting for amusement has brought another 600 in just over a week - you must be pleased at your greater audience, unfortunately it will probably damage the overall vote for EUkip if they stand in another election. Never mind we raised your profile!
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You just lost UKIP a heap of votes. You look and sound like a dogmatic and barely educated twerp. I voted UKIP in 2004, and not because of RKS. But you are sound like a Farage wannabee, and Farage is not a man I would trust with my vote.
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Moonsoon70 It is a little unfair to judge EUkip by the performance of just one clearly MrAngry on a Mission, he is clearly being used as a patsy to cover for the corrupt leadership. It is as dangerous as judging EUkip by members like Dave Barnby who unable to make deductions for themselves merely parrott leads they are given, sadly making fools of themselves and thus EUkip. Like poor old Bob they should check the facts with REPUTABLE & informed sources rather than self interested propagandists.
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Bob - perhaps you should read Paul Wesson's descriptions of you on Democracy Forum which are very flattering of you and may be trusted based on his track record & the fact that he is a long term moderator with A Queen's Commission AND intelligence.

May I suggest you stick to running your pub as it is clear that you are ill fitted for politics, though you clearly have the ill manners, blind faith and ambition. One draw back with EUkip is it is no longer a Political Party it has become a CULT!
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Bob The inaccuracy of my various authoratitive biographers would be funny if they were not so stupid - Astonishingly none of those who rush to print with yet a new re-write on the preceding fantasy ever bothers to check their facts; those who do check them with me remarkably seem not to write with such verve and critical fantasy. Even were I to try to mislead them they would at least have a grain of truth to write. I measure the judgement of people by the inaccuracy of rumour they subscribe to!

Bob FM · 23-08-2008, 06:37 PM

As you will see from the post that GLW asked Spon to post, it is a mixture and insult. He is right, everyone else is wrong, he appoints himself Prosecution, Judge, Jury and High Executioner.

And just as an aside, there is no such thing as a public domain list of email addresses.

chikrodah · 23-08-2008, 06:40 PM

I'm with Geoffrey on this one. We are being taken over by the Bob and Greg Show. Is there anything the moderators can do to ensure threads stay on topic? Yes, I know this is a BobFM "I have issues with GLW" special thread, but it's not just this thread that's deteriorated.

I think UKIPpers can be proud of themselves. It won't be too long before the only contributors to the UKIP threads are those who prefer the English Democrats/FEP/<whatever> parties' type of debate.

Bob FM · 23-08-2008, 06:52 PM

I did not introduce Gregs letter, why is my poll any less valid than the one about the NEC, or TNW. I repeat clearly there are posters who have happily contributed 3 to 1 that they haven't consented should they be censured, or it just get rid of bob at any cost. It would be a strange decision by the moderators to ban me for having a democratic poll, merely because those who choose to post GLW's stuff object.

Millennium3 · 23-08-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by chikrodah

I'm with Geoffrey on this one. We are being taken over by the Bob and Greg Show. Is there anything the moderators can do to ensure threads stay on topic? Yes, I know this is a BobFM "I have issues with GLW" special thread, but it's not just this thread that's deteriorated.

I think UKIPpers can be proud of themselves. It won't be too long before the only contributors to the UKIP threads are those who prefer the English Democrats/FEP/<whatever> parties' type of debate.

I can't help I am afraid, but the forum has lost some 300 active members over the last month or so.

Bob FM · 23-08-2008, 06:55 PM

M could you explain the basis for that comment. This is afterall the holiday season. Not everyone takes a laptop with them.

Millennium3 · 23-08-2008, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob FM

M could you explain the basis for that comment. This is afterall the holiday season. Not everyone takes a laptop with them.

Or it could be t that everyone has got fed up with petty squabbling that gets nowhere and makes the participants seem like political midgets.

View Poll Results: Who Gave Consent to be included in GLW's Email Data Base
Yes	3	18.75%
No	8	50.00%
Not on it	5	31.25%
Voters: 16. You may not vote on this poll

23-08-2008, 06:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
Bob FM Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 2,150	Spon, as you seem now also to be acting as agent for GLW, I have no intention of displaying here the numerous 'polite' attempts to get him to remove me from his list, although quite frankly given his constant abuse of others he has a cheek expecting different treatment. 'Please ask him politely on my behalf to remove my email and any other of my personal information from his data bases' Oh just for the record. I allowed GLW to post without reply on Youtube for several weeks before blocking his posts. I also reported him to Youtube for site abuse. Here is just one example as he choses yet again to distort the truth, he does done exactly the same on all my you tube videos. Greg260146 (3 days ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply \| Spam \| Remove \| Unblock User Bob: again you show yourself to be a very poor judge - saying 'Well said DD. My dad always to use to say you are judged by the company you keep' Douglas Denny a EUkip NEC member & full time toady whom you support has just been proven, yet again, to have lied and misled you by an NEC member at the time. Denny WAS sacked as Returning Officer by the NEC for corruption & dishonesty, whether subsequently given the 'fig leaf' of resigning for his dishonesty I can not confirm. Appology? Not man enough? Greg260146 (3 days ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply \| Spam \| Remove \| Unblock User Robert Feel Martinis you make a fool of yourself again - you state 'Do you have documentary proof that Wise spent £8000 or are you just repeating what your honest, upstanding, truthful friend GLW told you.' No sir, insulting and offensive as you are, I appreciate your knowledge is very limited but that you do not know various facts does not make them other than FACT. It is a matter of public record that Tom Wise EUkip MEP squandered £8,000 seeking to suppress the truth of his crimes as reported Greg260146 (5 days ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply \| Spam \| Remove \| Unblock User Hi, I note from what was UKIPForum until EUkip slid into the gutter that you still have no understanding of democracy or debate clearly preffering the EU model of shouting loudest, repeating your lies, hearing no evil by closing your eyes nor hearing but loudly proclaiming your idiotic opinions without evidence, fact, history, detail or substantive understanding backed by knowledge. It is the denial of facts that are KNOWN that make you look so foolish. EUkip has become a political irrelevance. Comment(s) marked as spam Show Comment(s) marked as spam Hide Greg260146 (2 weeks ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply \| Not Spam \| Remove \| Unblock User Bob you lied & said "You claim many things Greg, none of which are verifiable" you continued with uncertainty " I will however attempt to do so in regard to your latest claims, as I do have contacts in both 'camps' you mention" Since you have been unable to establish your fantasies since you have time having been kicked off what was UKIPForum yet again; this time for gross libel & offensive & obsessive behaviour perhaps you could take the time to write an apology for your lies about me - thanks. Greg260146 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply \| Spam \| Remove \| Unblock User QUOTE Bob on what was UKIPForum before UKIP collapsed and became EUkip: 'It is not the message it's the manner of delivery. I am far from being thin skinned, however I was always taught, that manners cost nothing, and that if one resorts to abuses one has lost the argument' - clearly from your hectoring, illmannered & offensive bullying manner you learned very little of what you were taught. Again & again you show yourself in the worst of light and totally lacking in manners as many pointed out! Greg260146 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply \| Spam \| Remove \| Unblock User Bob - well done, by stimulating some conversation in the comments section you have managed to raise the profile of your Video clip in 9 months had about 100 hits, presumably reflecting your supporters, the inclusion on other Forums & people visiting for amusement has brought another 600 in just over a week - you must be pleased at your greater audience, unfortunately it will probably damage the overall vote for EUkip if they stand in another election. Never mind we raised your profile! Moonsoon70 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply \| Spam \| Remove \| Block User You just lost UKIP a heap of votes. You look and sound like a dogmatic and barely educated twerp. I voted UKIP in 2004, and not because of RKS. But you are sound like a Farage wannabee, and Farage is not a man I would trust with my vote. Greg260146 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply \| Spam \| Remove \| Unblock User Moonsoon70 It is a little unfair to judge EUkip by the performance of just one clearly MrAngry on a Mission, he is clearly being used as a patsy to cover for the corrupt leadership. It is as dangerous as judging EUkip by members like Dave Barnby who unable to make deductions for themselves merely parrott leads they are given, sadly making fools of themselves and thus EUkip. Like poor old Bob they should check the facts with REPUTABLE & informed sources rather than self interested propagandists. Greg260146 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply \| Spam \| Remove \| Unblock User Bob - perhaps you should read Paul Wesson's descriptions of you on Democracy Forum which are very flattering of you and may be trusted based on his track record & the fact that he is a long term moderator with A Queen's Commission AND intelligence. May I suggest you stick to running your pub as it is clear that you are ill fitted for politics, though you clearly have the ill manners, blind faith and ambition. One draw back with EUkip is it is no longer a Political Party it has become a CULT! Greg260146 (3 weeks ago) Show Hide 0 Poor comment Good comment Marked as spam Reply \| Spam \| Remove \| Unblock User Bob The inaccuracy of my various authoratitive biographers would be funny if they were not so stupid - Astonishingly none of those who rush to print with yet a new re-write on the preceding fantasy ever bothers to check their facts; those who do check them with me remarkably seem not to write with such verve and critical fantasy. Even were I to try to mislead them they would at least have a grain of truth to write. I measure the judgement of people by the inaccuracy of rumour they subscribe to! Last edited by Bob FM; 23-08-2008 at 06:22 PM.

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23-08-2008, 05:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
Bob FM Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 2,150	'This gentleman, BobFM, has already used this forum to entice posters to join the BNP. ' GC you are a liar, now withdraw your comment. Please explain why is it acceptable to post GLW's ravings at times without accreditation but not to ask those on this forum anonymously if they have consented to being on GLW mailing list. Could it just be as the poll is showing that 3 to 1 never consented. Bett those on my mailing list are grouped into the various sectors of my business or membership activities. I only ever block email within those specific groups, and on the odd occasion I have been asked to remove someone I have done so on immediately receiving that request, it takes seconds.

23-08-2008, 06:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bob FM Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 2,150	As you will see from the post that GLW asked Spon to post, it is a mixture and insult. He is right, everyone else is wrong, he appoints himself Prosecution, Judge, Jury and High Executioner. And just as an aside, there is no such thing as a public domain list of email addresses.

23-08-2008, 06:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
chikrodah Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Midlands Posts: 1,872	I'm with Geoffrey on this one. We are being taken over by the Bob and Greg Show. Is there anything the moderators can do to ensure threads stay on topic? Yes, I know this is a BobFM "I have issues with GLW" special thread, but it's not just this thread that's deteriorated. I think UKIPpers can be proud of themselves. It won't be too long before the only contributors to the UKIP threads are those who prefer the English Democrats/FEP/<whatever> parties' type of debate.

23-08-2008, 06:52 PM	#17 (permalink)
Bob FM Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 2,150	I did not introduce Gregs letter, why is my poll any less valid than the one about the NEC, or TNW. I repeat clearly there are posters who have happily contributed 3 to 1 that they haven't consented should they be censured, or it just get rid of bob at any cost. It would be a strange decision by the moderators to ban me for having a democratic poll, merely because those who choose to post GLW's stuff object.

23-08-2008, 06:55 PM	#19 (permalink)
Bob FM Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 2,150	M could you explain the basis for that comment. This is afterall the holiday season. Not everyone takes a laptop with them.