Legin

For the attention of the NEC and the Leadership

I now understand that the perceived You Tube video poster was permitted to resign and not suspended pending the outcome of an enquiry. I also note that the Chairman is unwilling to take any action or even apologise and has stated so in written form, of which I was notified by ‘copy’ email. He did not even see fit to contact me directly. Michael Zuckerman, the Party Secretary, has also failed to apologise for UKIP’s criminal breach of the Data Protection Act and has simply informed me in an email that Miss Fuller had left the party.

I am passing a copy of this communication to The Suffolk Constabulary under Crime Number OF 08427. I will also be passing on this communication to the Information Commissioners Office.

Since this matter is now in the hands of the relevant authorities I take this opportunity, since no apology has been made to me or made public to date and no enquiry has been enacted by UKIP nor censure of those responsible, to request that any communication from the leadership must be made to me in writing.

I do not wish this criminal breach of the Data Protection Act to interfere with my duties both as Chairman of UKIP Ipswich and East Suffolk and UKIP PPC for Ipswich North/ Central Suffolk. I hope that the Courts can in the fullness of time resolve this matter, providing just one small step to cleaning-up UKIP, making it electable and ultimately a force for change in this once great land.

We have all witnessed UKIP’s collapse since 2004 and the sharp decline in membership numbers. I personally feel saddened that our party has been reduced to little more than a cult where the cry is ‘The Leader is always right!’ Under our current leadership we will be lucky to get a single MEP elected or re-elected in 2009. Under our current leadership and at our current rate of progress we will still be a minority in the year 3,000, which is I believe 248 elections away!

Perhaps the fact that this outrageous debacle has occurred will spur members to push for greater competence, honesty and transparency in our party, especially at the very top. A true leader listens to his members. He does not ignore them. I hope that in the future a new leader will appoint honest, competent staff and officers, find competent legal support and generally act in a more professional manner. UKIP needs a clear and visible structure of accountability. It would seem that although the NEC are in the main liable they in many instances men and women of straw without relevant insurance, and are legally responsible for decisions made by rogue UKIP staff.

May I congratulate the handful of NEC members who are fighting for transparency, honesty and a sense of responsibility. Until now I had not believed the rumours or the statements of past leadership contenders, past chairmen and various past NEC members who had quit in disgust, along with many members after failing to reform UKIP and make it a true alternative to the old party system. Sadly it has become all too obvious that the party in its present form is corrupt, bullying and incompetent. Unless it is cleaned-up now UKIP will remain unelectable. However, I still hope and believe that a cleaner, better, stronger UKIP will emerge once the current leadership has been replaced.

I have been accused by senior UKIP individuals of being naïve. Perhaps I am but I do believe in my Country. I am a Patriot and wish to see Great Britain free to make our own laws. I wish to see this land governed by our own Parliament who are, unlike the EU, accountable directly to the people.

The current leadership would do well to heed the words of Oliver Cromwell who when faced with an inept and incompetent clique of self-serving MPs used these words: You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go! .

In conclusion, I wish to bring to your attention a conversation with a senior UKIP MEP. This conversation does little but exacerbate the perception of offensive and inept behaviour of UKIP’s leadership. Indeed this particular MEP has blamed me for damaging the Euro-sceptic cause, the party and the country for reporting an alleged crime to the police! He said that I should not have reported it as the allegation may damage UKIP! He continued “After all, if someone said you had committed a murder I would not go to the police as I would know it was not true”. I found this to be an extraordinary interpretation of justice and the law. What made this statement even worse was to hear it uttered by a member of what is ostensibly a law and order party!

I was saddened that a man I had previously admired was advocating I act in breach of common law and risk facing a charge of accessory after the fact or at least being accused of colluding in a cover-up.

I believe this particular individual should consider his position as an MEP and whether he is capable of holding the responsibility and its duties since he seems unwilling to uphold basic tenets of law and goes so far as to criticise me for having done so.

I repeat, if I am made aware of a crime I have a legal duty to report it to the police regardless of any possible damage to the party.

Yours,
John West
Chairman UKIP Ipswich & East Suffolk
UKIP PPC Ipswich North/ Suffolk Central
Organiser of UKIP’s conferences on Immigration and Law and Order.

Bob FM

I do not wish this criminal breach of the Data Protection Act to interfere with my duties both as Chairman of UKIP Ipswich and East Suffolk and UKIP PPC for Ipswich North/ Central Suffolk. I hope that the Courts can in the fullness of time resolve this matter, providing just one small step to cleaning-up UKIP, making it electable and ultimately a force for change in this once great land.
I think Mr West must have a sense of morbid and perverse humour. This investigation and if proceeded to prosecution will destroy UKIP. I make no comment on the events as we are only receiving one side of the story. By the way Legin how come you are posting this, Mr West one assumes is more than able to.

Legin

At least it seems there are a couple of decent people with access to leadership butterflies that have emerged amongst the caterpillars that squabble, cheat and lie amongst the leadership to keep snouts in the troughs on the EU gravy train.

Clear rumour has it that when this squalid debacle commenced Farage in complete denial of reality, morality or ANY understanding of leadership fought his own senior members for two days to try to prevent the sacking of Annabelle Fuller – members in the hierarchy inform me that the fight to preserve this [DELETED BY MOD] became most acrimonious only being resolved when John Wittacker threatened to go public with Farage’s incompetence and obsession with hanging onto this damaging individual.

I gather Annabelle was fired but the condition was that Wittacker put out the idiotic letter to all and sundry with the implausible lies about taxi drivers and Ms. Fuller having been allowed to resign!! This just brought disrepute on EUkip as surely no organisation could have a Chairman who was so incompetent and naive – then to pour salt in all honest member’s wounds he failed to apologise to anyone for the breech of data protection or to have apologised on behalf of the party to John West.

Having fought to hang on closely to Fuller I gather Farage first tried to get her employment with the 2 Tory Peers who have defected to EUkip (I’ll bet they regret that!) I understand they refused. Now I gather there are efforts to find her a job with the turncoat Tory Bob Spink and I’m told Gawain Towler has managed to get her an appointment for an interview with The Tax Payer’s Alliance. I have received confirmation of this from more than one individual who has proved reliable in the past – yes it is only hearsay as is ALL evidence of this nature but I’m sure you will be fascinated to read of this horrid woman’s [REALLY DISTASTEFUL ABUSE DELETED BY MOD]. How could ANYONE from EUkip, who represents decent honourable members as well as the scum that has floated to the top, how could they recommend such a being to anyone? Even such a recommendation could backfire on EUkip!

Legin

I'm enjoying you trying to guess my identity!!

Bob FM

This just brought disrepute on EUkip Very revealing

Bob FM

The question was a genuine one, how did you get a copy of this letter and do you have it in writing stating you have permission to publish it, after all Mr West is taking this action for similar failings by others.

Aardvark

Bob FM, You don't think Whittaker's e-mail, couched badly and showing contempt for the law, or the posting by a UKIP 'person' of private data on an international website brings UKIP into disrepute? How very revealing.

Whittaker's e-mail, leaked but confirmed as real, is all that you will ever be allowed to hear of the 'other side'.

What do you think is the other side's argument - that it was in the public interest to out John West, that it was an innocent mistake, that an unnamed taxi driver let his mate access and copy data from a computer he found in the back of the cab?

Why, if innocent of any wrongdoing, did a senior UKIP staffer come back from holiday and resign over a lost laptop? The MoD would be devoid of senior officers if every lost laptop caused a resignation.

I admire your loyalty, as I would admire the loyalty of a poodle for its owner, but you really need to wise up to the political world you find yourself in. Politics is a lot dirtier than you seem to imagine. Few of us are good Christian men and women. I try my hardest to be honourable and fair, but even I have a very nasty streak when I am roused. Nobody ever stabbed me in the back twice and got away with it.

The debates on this forum raise a lot of hackles and hundreds of people follow them. You'd be surprised by the people who communicate with me and their motives. I don't want to wish away my life, but by the end of the year you will be thoroughly disillusioned. There's a lot happening that you are not privy to; I'm not in every circle, but I overlap shall we say.

I think in your heart you are a good man. UKIP is full of good men, but the very few rotten apples are close to the top of the barrel and the stench of fermentation and decay could become overwhelming.

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When in Woking do as the Wokes do.

"I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008

eublues

Two things don't surprise me: Annabelle Fuller acts foolishly; UKIP doesn't handle it well.

One thing does surprise me: John West wants to stay in UKIP and be a branch Chairman and PPC.

Bob FM

Aardvark, disloyalty abounds within UKIP people leak things for personal gain, comments legin has posted were made to very few people which means trusted people made have abused trust, that in my view is despicable. And please do not assume because I am new to UKIP that I have not already built up a very good association with many in the know at various levels of the party. The difference is I will not abuse trust. I will honour confidences . Unlike many on here who seem to think it is all right to feed information to the likes of GLW and then claim it's in the interests of the party. As I have not seen a copy of Whittaker's email, I will not comment, except to say it's a bit rich for John West to 'bleat' about confidentiality and then do the same thing himself, but double standards seem to be the Hall Mark of some UKIPer's. Eublues very valid points.

mrabody

Legin may or may not be John West. Legin may be connected with Tom Wise. He may or may not be a sockpuppet.

He and John West and GLW are all collaborating closely that is for sure.

I can't take John West's protestations that he wants to continue as chairman of the Ipswich and East Suffolk and PPC of Ipswich North/Central Suffolk without a large dose of salt. Why would he want to remain a member of a party which has so grossly violated his privacy, mocked him and possibly broken the law? I think he is trying to maintain a perception that he is an entirely innocent party in all this. I also suspect that he is hoping that the party will cave in and offer him a position near the top of the Eastern MEP list. If that were to happen I suspect that John West would suddenly decide that the Youtube incident was really no big deal and would call off his solicitors.