News: mrabody responds to GLW's characterization of him.

mrabody · 21-07-2008, 12:20 PM

No doubt many of you have received an email from Greg Lance-Watkins in which he has made some comments about me. I felt that his portrayal of me was innacurate and I have now emailed him directly to

For those of you who have not seen Mr. Lance-Watkins email, here is the offending paragraph:

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MrAbody – whoever you are – I am not surprised you are ashamed of your sickening hypocracy, grovelling self righteousnesas and toadying lack of decency, I presume you are staff or wish to be as you show yourself to have JUST the sort of lack of integrity and sordid lack of morality that will fit in with the scum that has hi jacked this party from the decent hardworking members who formed UKIP before the likes of you debased it with such as the foul mouthed slut Annabelle Fuller and her sordid coterie in EUkip’s leadership & staff. No wonder MrAnybody that you are ashamed to put your name to your postings – you should do well in EUkip.

And my reply in which I endeavour to clear up any misunderstandings underscoring Mr. Lance-Watkin's criticism of me.

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Dear Mr. Lance-Watkins,

I note from a recent email of yours that you appear to be upset with me. To whit you say:

"MrAbody – whoever you are – I am not surprised you are ashamed of your sickening hypocracy, grovelling self righteousnesas and toadying lack of decency, I presume you are staff or wish to be as you show yourself to have JUST the sort of lack of integrity and sordid lack of morality that will fit in with the scum that has hi jacked this party from the decent hardworking members who formed UKIP before the likes of you debased it with such as the foul mouthed slut Annabelle Fuller and her sordid coterie in EUkip’s leadership & staff. No wonder MrAnybody that you are ashamed to put your name to your postings – you should do well in EUkip."

You are certainly entitled to your opinion of me. However it remains just that, an opinion, and one that remains unsubstantiated by knowledge of your subject. Despite having practiced law for several years now I have never been exposed to such a barrage of vituperation - in fact it gives me a certain frisson of excitement to think that I could be such a depraved, horrid individual. The fact remains though that you do not appear to be well informed about your subject matter in this case.

I do admit that I am currently on the list of prospective MEP candidates for the southeast of England. I am also the UKIP Prospective Parliamentary Candidate in Lewes, East Sussex. I stood for UKIP in the local elections in 2007 and 2008 in the ward of Chertsey-St. Ann's in Runnymede. You are certainly entitled to read into these facts what you wish. I have never sought paid employment with UKIP however, and have no intention of doing so in the future. I hope this will ease your mind somewhat.

I am sorry if you have taken issue with some things I have said. You appear to think that I am something of a syncophant. I am not. I like to form my own opinions, which tend to be informed by a contrarian streak that runs deep within me, and as well as the healthy scepticism (some might say cynicism) that goes with several years practice of criminal defence law. As you have not had the opportunity to speak with me privately, and as online fora tend to limit our understanding of the real person behind the post, I can understand if you misinterpreted the motivation behind what I post. I would like to assure you that I harbour no hard feelings in that regard. I have in the past been guilty of the same mistake - confusing the person with the argument.

I must take issue with your suggestion that I am ashamed of what I type on the forum because I use a "handle" rather than my real name. However, I have been quite open about my identity for some time now and it is known to many forum members, including Aardvark, Geoffrey Collier, Harry Aldridge amongst others. In fact I would have changed my "handle" to reflect my real name some time ago but unfortunately this is not supported by the forum software. I am somewhat perturbed that you do not know who I am given your formidable reputation for ferreting out information and that you would fail to realize that my identity is known to many if not most frequent British Democracy Forum users. I trust that this is not due to laziness or lack of ability, but rather to the fact that you were trying to make a point (that I am ashamed of what I post).

I cannot possibly comment on Ms. Fuller's status as a "slut", as I do not have any information concerning her personal life.

Lastly I would be much obliged if you would correct the mistaken capitalization of my on screen "handle". It is in fact "mrabody", not "MrAbody". I would also be much obliged if in the future when raining insults down upon me that you use something catchy. Something along the lines of "evil reptilian kitten eater from another planet" perhaps.

I hope this email has cleared up the apparent misunderstanding that prompted your criticism of me. I look forward to many more years of your erudite commentary.

Yours truly,

Drew Belobaba
aka "mrabody"

Anthony Butcher · 21-07-2008, 12:25 PM

I would normally move this into the Talk About Anything section, but since you are an MEP candidate for UKIP, it does seem relevant here.

It's a good positive response - much better than many counter-rants that I have seen

douglas denny · 21-07-2008, 01:03 PM

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quote mrabody
No doubt many of you have received an email from Greg Lance-Watkins in which he has made some comments about me. I felt that his portrayal of me was innacurate and I have now emailed him directly to

For those of you who have not seen Mr. Lance-Watkins email, here is the offending paragraph:

........And my reply in which I endeavour to clear up any misunderstandings underscoring Mr. Lance-Watkin's criticism of me....

You should consider it a compliment to be vilified by Mr. Greg Watkins. (Note the "Lance" bit is an affectation).

You are a candidate in the MEPs election are you not?
..... then why be surprised at an attack from that moron?
He is a well-known anti-UKIP agent provacateur and has a pop at everyone in UKIP who is likely to be in any way efficient. So if you are being criticised it means he deems you worthy of the criticism/attack - in other words is frightened you might win!

If you are being singled out for attack from him it means you must be good: I shall have to very seriously consider voting FOR you.
Ignore the bast@rd.

DED

Tim Worstall · 21-07-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by douglas denny

You should consider it a compliment to be vilified by Mr. Greg Watkins. (Note the "Lance" bit is an affectation).

You are a candidate in the MEPs election are you not?
..... then why be surprised at an attack from that moron?
He is a well-known anti-UKIP agent provacateur and has a pop at everyone in UKIP who is likely to be in any way efficient. So if you are being criticised it means he deems you worthy of the criticism/attack - in other words is frightened you might win!

If you are being singled out for attack from him it means you must be good: I shall have to very seriously consider voting FOR you.
Ignore the bast@rd.

DED

Oh dear. That Gre Watkins doesn't see fit to attack me does not bode well for my own candidacy, obviously.

C_steam · 21-07-2008, 03:21 PM

Mr "evil reptilian kitten eater from another planet" - a fair response.

mrabody · 21-07-2008, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by douglas denny

You should consider it a compliment to be vilified by Mr. Greg Watkins. (Note the "Lance" bit is an affectation).

You are a candidate in the MEPs election are you not?
..... then why be surprised at an attack from that moron?
He is a well-known anti-UKIP agent provacateur and has a pop at everyone in UKIP who is likely to be in any way efficient. So if you are being criticised it means he deems you worthy of the criticism/attack - in other words is frightened you might win!

If you are being singled out for attack from him it means you must be good: I shall have to very seriously consider voting FOR you.
Ignore the bast@rd.

DED

I hope very much that you will consider voting for me.

I'm very aware of GLW's reputation and his modus operandi. I decided that I'd go public, respond, do so politely. I think people let him get under their skin, reply in anger and then get into the type of mud-flinging match which he is so good at and so clearly enjoys. I have no intention of fighting him on the ground of his choosing.

I think poking fun at GLW publicly is the best way to respond to him. He gives every indication of having an overlarge ego, and probably cannot bear to be laughed at. If I'm going to be publicly slagged off by him I intend to enjoy it, and make sure that everyone else enjoys it as well.

Drew

BASILDON BOY · 21-07-2008, 04:25 PM

Dear Mr "evil reptilian kitten eater from another planet"

Why should I vote for a kitten eater? Please justify your kitten eating ways.

Also are non human life forms allowed to stand for elected office? (OK so I know most of our current MPs/MEPs must live on a different planet...)

Are alien life forms, especially those that eat cute furry kittens - allowed membership of UKIP?

I know Annebelle Fuller did sign her pussy up for Conservative Future a few years ago...

...enough of her pussy!

mrabody · 21-07-2008, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BASILDON BOY

Dear Mr "evil reptilian kitten eater from another planet"

Why should I vote for a kitten eater? Please justify your kitten eating ways.

Also are non human life forms allowed to stand for elected office? (OK so I know most of our current MPs/MEPs must live on a different planet...)

Are alien life forms, especially those that eat cute furry kittens - allowed membership of UKIP?

I know Annebelle Fuller did sign her pussy up for Conservative Future a few years ago...

...enough of her pussy!

I can assure you that I only eat kittens due to their high nutritional value.

mrabody · 21-07-2008, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mrabody

I can assure you that I only eat kittens due to their high nutritional value.

No kittens were harmed in the making of this post!

douglas denny · 21-07-2008, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tim Worstall

Oh dear. That Gre Watkins doesn't see fit to attack me does not bode well for my own candidacy, obviously.

Oh no Tim! you aren't anybody in UKIP until you have had at least one rantfest against you by Greg Watkins. People like me get them regularly because I have the temerity to point out he is insane.

It is easy to get him going though - just remind him of his unspeakbale evil in endorsing the assasination of the Swedish minister; or his anarchic tendancies in suggesting there should be armed insurrection in Britain. Or, just ask him why he professes to be anti-EU but is so vehemently against UKIP - the only anti-EU party of any relevance and so is totally conradictory?
Point out he is clearly an anti-UKIP agent provocateur from some other party or government department or both.

Or just simply remind him he must be nutty pouring out all the enormous quantity of bile that he does every day with spiteful nonsensical rubbish.

Any of that will give you the credentials - pushing the Watkins rant button is too easy a sport. That's why I tired of it a good while ago.

Don't worry though - I and most others shall be voting upon merit and nothing else.

Regards, and best luck in the election,

Douglas Denny.

21-07-2008, 12:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 10,315 Party: None	I would normally move this into the Talk About Anything section, but since you are an MEP candidate for UKIP, it does seem relevant here. It's a good positive response - much better than many counter-rants that I have seen __________________ If you care about what's in your food and where it comes from, then get it labelled! Label My Food - http://www.labelmyfood.org.uk

21-07-2008, 03:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,964	Mr "evil reptilian kitten eater from another planet" - a fair response. __________________ -------------------------------------------------- Users on ignore list: None. I've got to have people to laugh at. Cowardly Posters* list: BobFM, Bellatrix.*People who post personal insults then refuse to reply .

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21-07-2008, 04:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
BASILDON BOY Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: N'Djamena, Chad Posts: 2,044	Dear Mr "evil reptilian kitten eater from another planet" Why should I vote for a kitten eater? Please justify your kitten eating ways. Also are non human life forms allowed to stand for elected office? (OK so I know most of our current MPs/MEPs must live on a different planet...) Are alien life forms, especially those that eat cute furry kittens - allowed membership of UKIP? I know Annebelle Fuller did sign her pussy up for Conservative Future a few years ago... ...enough of her pussy!