News: mrabody responds to GLW's characterization of him.

Niall Warry · 21-08-2008, 05:09 PM

All those of you who dislike GLW's posts are playing a game of self justification.

Yes GLW's e-mails are direct, often insultingly provocative and always verbose but what is his aim?

This is quite clearly to clean up UKIP and make it seriously electable and backable by the great and the good so that it can contribute greatly to the task of getting the UK out the EU.

To this day he still praises Nigel for his media strenghts but says, as many others do, he is a hopeless Party leader.

When UKIP started he was a keen supporter, active helper and adviser but turned when the party became hugely corrupted. By and large if you consider his targets they are those inside and outside this forum who appear to turn a blind eye to this corruption. This is not an option GLW, or for that matter many in UKIP, will accept hence their attacks.

I hope I speak correctly for this group but in our opinion it would be better for UKIP not even to exist than to con the British public it has any realistic hope of getting the UK out the EU in its present form. UKIP now exist for its MEPs as a gravy train which the current lot have been unable to resist. As the next lot will in the main be Nigels stooges the same can be said of them.

Those that hate GLW are missing the point big time UKIP is a busted flush under Nigel. To save the UK from the EU Eurosceptics will sadly need to look beyond UKIP.

In the meantime those of us that KNOW just how corrupt UKIP has become will NOT go away and will continue to try and bring those responsible to account. In my case if that means destroying UKIP then so be it because in its present form it is not worth having and even damages the Eurosceptic movement.

mrabody · 21-08-2008, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by T.N.Warry

All those of you who dislike GLW's posts are playing a game of self justification.

Yes GLW's e-mails are direct, often insultingly provocative and always verbose but what is his aim?

This is quite clearly to clean up UKIP and make it seriously electable and backable by the great and the good so that it can contribute greatly to the task of getting the UK out the EU.

To this day he still praises Nigel for his media strenghts but says, as many others do, he is a hopeless Party leader.

When UKIP started he was a keen supporter, active helper and adviser but turned when the party became hugely corrupted. By and large if you consider his targets they are those inside and outside this forum who appear to turn a blind eye to this corruption. This is not an option GLW, or for that matter many in UKIP, will accept hence their attacks.

I hope I speak correctly for this group but in our opinion it would be better for UKIP not even to exist than to con the British public it has any realistic hope of getting the UK out the EU in its present form. UKIP now exist for its MEPs as a gravy train which the current lot have been unable to resist. As the next lot will in the main be Nigels stooges the same can be said of them.

Those that hate GLW are missing the point big time UKIP is a busted flush under Nigel. To save the UK from the EU Eurosceptics will sadly need to look beyond UKIP.

In the meantime those of us that KNOW just how corrupt UKIP has become will NOT go away and will continue to try and bring those responsible to account. In my case if that means destroying UKIP then so be it because in its present form it is not worth having and even damages the Eurosceptic movement.

I'm sorry, but GLW made all sorts of assumptions about me without bothering to inquire after me first to even know who I am and what I stand for. So that would suggest that he isn't interested in facts despite his claims to the contrary.

As for his aims. I might be inclined to believe you that he wants to clean up UKIP if it weren't for the fact that I know him to have attacked at least one other person who would also claim to want to clean up UKIP. So if Greg is attacking and insulting people who are putatively on his side, it would suggest that he doesn't want UKIP cleaned up. Hell for all Greg knows, I could be on his side on all these issues. Alas he won't ever find out now will he having called me a liar and a disgrace to my profession.

You believe that GLW has UKIP's best interests at heart. Others will believe that he is trying to sabotage UKIP on behalf of the BNP or the government.
I happen to believe that his attacks on UKIP and his reputation for always being right have gone to his head and give him an enormous sense of self-importance.

Niall Warry · 21-08-2008, 08:43 PM

I agree mrabody that GLW does have a certain level of self importance as do we all who post on this forum. GLW has some just reason as he writes 1 or more e-mails a day distributed to around 3,500 people.

He certainly does NOT support the BNP who he has nothing but contempt for. He may ocassionally point out why it is the BNP are currently doing better than UKIP but then all UKIPers should be asking that question. As to supporting the LibLabCon( a term he invented and now much used) he seldom gives them any support if ever.

No the truth is he feel very let down by UKIP a Party that promised do much and has delivered little of worth.

If he has you wrong clear the air and ring him on 01291 626562. I gather you were originally anonymous so now you are out of the closet (if you know what I mean!) give him a call.

mrabody · 21-08-2008, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T.N.Warry

I agree mrabody that GLW does have a certain level of self importance as do we all who post on this forum. GLW has some just reason as he writes 1 or more e-mails a day distributed to around 3,500 people.

He certainly does NOT support the BNP who he has nothing but contempt for. He may ocassionally point out why it is the BNP are currently doing better than UKIP but then all UKIPers should be asking that question. As to supporting the LibLabCon( a term he invented and now much used) he seldom gives them any support if ever.

No the truth is he feel very let down by UKIP a Party that promised do much and has delivered little of worth.

If he has you wrong clear the air and ring him on 01291 626562. I gather you were originally anonymous so now you are out of the closet (if you know what I mean!) give him a call.

Why do I need to phone him to clear the air? He can email me if he wants to do that.

mrabody · 21-08-2008, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrabody

Why do I need to phone him to clear the air? He can email me if he wants to do that.

I should add, that if he wants to clear the air, GLW can email me without accusing me of lying or calling me names. In short he should show a little humility instead of blustering.

Bob FM · 22-08-2008, 07:39 AM

I agree mrabody that GLW does have a certain level of self importance as do we all who post on this forum. GLW has some just reason as he writes 1 or more e-mails a day distributed to around 3,500 people.

That's a cracker, any idiot can send out 10's of thousands of emails a day via data bases one can buy. How does sending out 3500 most of which are not asked for or for that matter most have never requested to be on his data base, and like me have requested numerous times to be taken off, which he doesn't do. Not a great justification of the man TN. At least I've achieved something he is no longer allowed to post on my You Tube videos, but no doubt he will invent another account to do so which will play nicely into You Tubes hands and get him banned altogether from their site.

21-08-2008, 08:43 PM	#53 (permalink)
Niall Warry Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 1,675	I agree mrabody that GLW does have a certain level of self importance as do we all who post on this forum. GLW has some just reason as he writes 1 or more e-mails a day distributed to around 3,500 people. He certainly does NOT support the BNP who he has nothing but contempt for. He may ocassionally point out why it is the BNP are currently doing better than UKIP but then all UKIPers should be asking that question. As to supporting the LibLabCon( a term he invented and now much used) he seldom gives them any support if ever. No the truth is he feel very let down by UKIP a Party that promised do much and has delivered little of worth. If he has you wrong clear the air and ring him on 01291 626562. I gather you were originally anonymous so now you are out of the closet (if you know what I mean!) give him a call. Last edited by Niall Warry; 21-08-2008 at 08:46 PM. Reason: word missed

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21-08-2008, 05:09 PM	#51 (permalink)
Niall Warry Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somerset Posts: 1,675	All those of you who dislike GLW's posts are playing a game of self justification. Yes GLW's e-mails are direct, often insultingly provocative and always verbose but what is his aim? This is quite clearly to clean up UKIP and make it seriously electable and backable by the great and the good so that it can contribute greatly to the task of getting the UK out the EU. To this day he still praises Nigel for his media strenghts but says, as many others do, he is a hopeless Party leader. When UKIP started he was a keen supporter, active helper and adviser but turned when the party became hugely corrupted. By and large if you consider his targets they are those inside and outside this forum who appear to turn a blind eye to this corruption. This is not an option GLW, or for that matter many in UKIP, will accept hence their attacks. I hope I speak correctly for this group but in our opinion it would be better for UKIP not even to exist than to con the British public it has any realistic hope of getting the UK out the EU in its present form. UKIP now exist for its MEPs as a gravy train which the current lot have been unable to resist. As the next lot will in the main be Nigels stooges the same can be said of them. Those that hate GLW are missing the point big time UKIP is a busted flush under Nigel. To save the UK from the EU Eurosceptics will sadly need to look beyond UKIP. In the meantime those of us that KNOW just how corrupt UKIP has become will NOT go away and will continue to try and bring those responsible to account. In my case if that means destroying UKIP then so be it because in its present form it is not worth having and even damages the Eurosceptic movement.

22-08-2008, 07:39 AM	#56 (permalink)
Bob FM Uber Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 2,148	I agree mrabody that GLW does have a certain level of self importance as do we all who post on this forum. GLW has some just reason as he writes 1 or more e-mails a day distributed to around 3,500 people. That's a cracker, any idiot can send out 10's of thousands of emails a day via data bases one can buy. How does sending out 3500 most of which are not asked for or for that matter most have never requested to be on his data base, and like me have requested numerous times to be taken off, which he doesn't do. Not a great justification of the man TN. At least I've achieved something he is no longer allowed to post on my You Tube videos, but no doubt he will invent another account to do so which will play nicely into You Tubes hands and get him banned altogether from their site.