British Democracy Forum
Web | Images | Groups | News | Advanced
Google
Worldwide Results UK Focused Results

Go Back   British Democracy Forum > Anti-EU, Euroscepticism and European reformism > UKIP General Issues
"I’m harbouring a magical elephant" "I’m harbouring a magical elephant"
Register Social Groups Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


You can remove this advert by logging in or registering
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 18-07-2008, 06:06 PM   #1 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 55
UKIPSW is just starting out
Default "I’m harbouring a magical elephant"
Quote:
SIR - "Just because somebody does not believe in something, it does not make it untrue, or indeed fraudulent.” So Jason Smith of UKIP tells me (July 4).

Well, obviously! If belief entailed truth and disbelief entailed falsity, then beliefs wouldn’t be beliefs, they would be instructions which bent the world to our will.

However, if the belief in question is a completely unsubstantiated superstition about magical powers, then disbelief is the rational position.

If I told you, Mr Smith, that I am harbouring a full grown (and magical) elephant in Cathedral Ward, you would probably say “I don’t believe you”. Imagine I replied with the following: “Just because you don’t believe in it, doesn’t make it untrue.” You would rightly think that I had completely overlooked the very reasonable nature of your doubt. The shenanigans of ‘psychics’ are just like my magic elephant.

The onus is on the believer to produce some proper evidence.

Jason Smith appears fairly unconcerned about the massive and growing industry of ‘psychic’ frauds operating expensive ‘hotlines’ and now even opening shops (there’s one coming in Sidbury).

These charlatans are ripping off vulnerable people all over the country.

Bob Churchill, Worcester

I’m harbouring a magical elephant (From Worcester News)
Psychics, clairvoyants etc should not be allowed to charge for their lies. They pray on the mentally ill, bereaved, desperate and lonely.
UKIPSW is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote

You can remove this advert by logging in or registering
Old 18-07-2008, 06:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
g hall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: erewhon
Posts: 5,935
g hall has some supporters
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by UKIPSW View Post
Psychics, clairvoyants etc should not be allowed to charge for their lies. They pray on the mentally ill, bereaved, desperate and lonely.
So which religions representatives are in and which are out do we have a league table of charlatans and rogues
__________________
"That government is best which governs least."
 "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries".
 "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."
TANSTAAFL TANJ


g hall is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 18-07-2008, 07:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 55
UKIPSW is just starting out
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by g hall View Post
So which religions representatives are in and which are out do we have a league table of charlatans and rogues
Who mentioned religion?

A vicar will pray for you for FREE.

Scamming money from the vulnerable is the problem here. Free psychic hotlines would be fine.

When priests start charging £1.50 a minute for confessionals then you can compare the two.
UKIPSW is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Old 18-07-2008, 07:40 PM   #4 (permalink)
Uber Member
 
g hall's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: erewhon
Posts: 5,935
g hall has some supporters
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by UKIPSW View Post
Who mentioned religion?
implied in your quote - spiritualism can be interpreted as a religion

Quote:
A vicar will pray for you for FREE.
and then pass the plate and look sternly at you if you do not contribute

Quote:
Scamming money from the vulnerable is the problem here. Free psychic hotlines would be fine.

When priests start charging £1.50 a minute for confessionals then you can compare the two.
Religious organisations are amongst the wealthiest bodies in society they may not present an invoice but they expect a tithe
__________________
"That government is best which governs least."
 "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all diseases and miseries".
 "To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy --and dull fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful."
TANSTAAFL TANJ


g hall is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!FuzzFizz It!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 08:36 AM.

Contact Us - British Democracy Forum - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This site is owned and operated by MyCartel Limited © 2007. Hosting: BookFizz.
This site supports Label My Food and Politigg
My latest commercial site: Cell Phone News 2.0 - [Mobile version]

Mobile version

Politishop

eXTReMe Tracker
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.1.0