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Old 17-07-2008, 09:43 PM   #11 (permalink)
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For the last bloody time it was Brown not the Queen who gave Royal Assent.
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Old 17-07-2008, 09:45 PM   #12 (permalink)
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For the last bloody time it was Brown not the Queen who gave Royal Assent.
Do you have a link for this if it true?.
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Old 17-07-2008, 10:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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For the last bloody time it was Brown not the Queen who gave Royal Assent.
Yes it was Brown who gave Royal Assent, but to sign off an International treaty requires more signatures, and to quote the BBC:

The "instruments of ratification" were signed by the Queen and Foreign Secretary David Miliband before being deposited in Rome.
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See this item in today's Express ,with response from CIB


Daily Express: The World's Greatest Newspaper :: UK News :: Sold out to Europe: Brown makes Queen sign away our sovereignty
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Let's discard this Queen in favour of the Prince of Peace!
garden parties would be interesting, at the very least......
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Although the Express is not the most respected paper - the full article is worth reading mostly for Haig's comment:

SOLD OUT TO EUROPE: BROWN MAKES QUEEN SIGN AWAY OUR SOVEREIGNTY

Friday July 18,2008
By Macer Hall Political Editor
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GORDON Brown was last night accused of betraying Britain with a “grubby”surrender to Brussels.

Under a cloak of secrecy, the Government finally ratified the Lisbon Treaty earlier this week and committed the country to a new deluge of European meddling.

In a sign of the Prime Minister’s personal embarrassment over the betrayal, the historic step was only made public yesterday – 24 hours after the covert ceremony had taken place.

The instrument of ratification was signed by the Queen, who had no choice. Because Mr Brown had signed the treaty, she was constitutionally forced to follow suit.

The document was then flown in a diplomatic bag to Rome and delivered to the Italian Foreign Ministry at noon on Wednesday.

Mr Brown was last night facing widespread revolt and even the threat of further legal action after forcing the treaty into law without the promised referendum.

Tory Shadow Foreign Secretary William Hague said: “Gordon Brown has no democratic or moral authority to sign Britain up to what is a renamed EU constitution. This move is a total breach of trust with the British people and a flagrant breach of his solemn election promise. It is a sign of how arrogant and out of touch this Government has become that it is totally uninterested in what the British people want on Europe.

“It also means that the Government is joining in the ugly bullying of the Irish people, who have clearly rejected this treaty in a referendum. Trying to push ahead with the treaty shows an utter lack of respect for the Irish voters’ democratic decision.

As long as the Irish decision is not reversed, the EU treaty will not be in force at the next general election. A new Conservative Government would then take back the instrument of ratification and put the treaty to a referendum, recommending a ‘No’ vote.

“That is the honourable and democratic thing to do.”

He pointed out that Mr Brown signed the treaty last year in a bizarre solo ceremony separate from the EU’s 26 other national leaders.

Mr Hague added: “Whether it’s Brown turning up late to sign the treaty or slipping out the news that they’ve finally handed over the crucial document, Labour has never had the guts to come out and put a case for the repackaged EU constitution.”

Tory backbencher Douglas Carswell, a leading Euro-sceptic, said: “The way this treaty was signed was underhand and grubby and a betrayal of the UK. It shows this treaty has no proper legitimacy. And I think it also shows how useless our Parliament is.

While MPs were debating their expenses and deciding whose snout should go in which trough, another serious erosion of British sovereignty was taking place.

Lorraine Mullally, of the Euro-sceptic think-tank Open Europe, said: “The Government has been dishonest and cowardly about this right from the beginning.

“First Gordon Brown signed it in Brussels in secret and now they’ve ratified it on the sly. They are ashamed of it because they know people don’t want it. Gordon Brown has behaved in a cowardly way because he is scared of the voters.”

Andy Smith, of the Campaign For An Independent Britain, said: “The whole history of this treaty is one of trickery and deceit. They reckon they can slip it through.”

A Foreign Office spokesman last night claimed the timing of the British ratification was dictated by the administrative process of drawing up the documents and getting the required signatures.

“Ratification is a matter for each individual EU nation. There is no question at all of Ireland being bullied,” the spokesman added.
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Old 18-07-2008, 09:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Yet another example of "queens" causing trouble.
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