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The site: http://www.johnukip.co.uk/
My response: Is the experience there? If he'd been a councillor for a year, for example, he could prove that he knows politics, rather than just campaigning on "I'm interested". I like his stuff on devolving to local communities. Don't like the "I'm young so I must appeal" rubbish. What Aardvark says would be a lot of people's initial reaction, I'm sure, so just campaigning on his youth could backfire or just fail. Transparency should already be in place. Labour have been doing it for 6 years now and the Tories started doing it today. The fact that UKIP claim not to be on the gravy train but don't oblige MEPs to show their expenses is frightening. I like the idea of constituency meetings. Quote:
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Join Date: Sep 2004
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Website's not bad - he obviously grasps the basics of internet campaigning, which is something. He needs to ditch the glasses, though. Does he have a sister who could dress him up in some decent gear, take him to the barbers, and then re-take the photo?
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As I said, there should already be institutionalised transparency in UKIP as there is in the Labour and Tory parties (as of today in the latter's case). Therefore it should not have been an issue in the first place and he should have marketed it as an attempt to get all of UKIP to be transparent, not just himself, lest the party should look like it has become passenger on a rather notorious European train.
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Good on John for stepping forward. Everyone has to start somewhere. If you wait until you've got loads of experience before you start then how do you get the experience in the first place?
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I am saddened by UKIP members apparent fixation with where candidates live! I do understand parochialism is almost a pre-requisite for membership of UKIP but it closes a lot of doors to a lot of talent just because of where they were born. |
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Oxonia
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So why have you got a parochial name? It's grim in Birmingham as well.
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When in Woking do as the Wokes do. "I do not wish to form my opinions by thoughtlessly quoting others; I wish others to support their opinions by sensibly quoting me." Paul Wesson (Aardvark) 13th April 2008 |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: The Westcountry.
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"Devolving power to local communities?"
How local are we talking here? I'm not sure I want my Parish council to have any kind of serious responsibility for example. Also, how much of this is achievable as an MEP? I'd offer that it's somewhere near zero - you shouldn't make promises you know you can't keep. Finally, I'm not entirely convinced that more power at the local level is what people want - look at the current situation with primary care trusts. You get people bitching and moaning that there are drugs available in other areas and not in theirs, and then place the blame at No.10 Downing Street without even looking locally. The only way to stop the "postcode lottery" is to go back to a unified system under the control of Westminster.
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