Eagle

In 2004 Robin Page was third on the Eastern Region UKIP MEP list. He is a popular broadcaster and respected UKIP member.

In 2008 Mr Page decided to seek selection as an Eastern Region MEP candidate. Mr Peter Reeve offered to deal with his nomination papers. Mr Reeve failed to keep his promise. The forms were withheld so that Mr Page would miss the closing date for nominations. Because of this Mr Page's application was rejected by UKIP Head Office.

This is not the first time Mr Page has been the victim of a dirty tricks campaign. In 2004 stories abour Mr Page were leaked to the press in an effort to damage his reputation. These stories are said to have originated from the office of one J. Titford MEP.

Mr Page could have been number one on the Eastern Region MEP list. Certain people at Chelmsford, on the Eastern Counties Regional Committee and elsewhere did not want this to happen. Please note that Mr Reeve works for Mr Titford.

Mr Gill is so concerned about this that he has gone on holiday.

Aardvark

Eagle, Who are you? What is your interest in making these assertions? Has Peter Reeve nicked your forklift truck?

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mrabody

Why couldn't Mr. Page complete the nomination papers and submit them himself as I suspect most MEP candidates did?

Legin

I think Mr Page was ill at the time and Mr Reeve offered to HELP!!

Geoffrey Collier

mrabody: A good try, but not quite right. Robin Page was telephoned and asked if he intended to be a MEP candidate in 2009. Furthermore, he was given the impression that his inclusion on the list would be welcomed. He was told not to bother to do anything other that seek clearance from the CRB. and send it to Head Office; 'they would do all the paperwork'. They were aware that R.P. was recouperating from surgery. Following those instructions, he contacted the CRB and some time later he phoned H.O. and asked if his 'clearance' had arrived. Yes, he was told. 'So all is well then, just put it with the paper-work'. 'We don't to have any paperwork', H.O. replied. Following their suggestion that he contacts Christopher Gill, he did just that. Mr Gill told him that he hadn't any paperwork, and it is now too late for his name to be included. Apparently, the Eastern regional offrice, had (deliberately?) sat on his paperwork. Who would you rather believe Robin Page, or Peter Reeve? Following thier solicitations to Robin Page, they should have SENT OR HAD SENT to him the paperwork. If it was a genuine mistake or misunderstanding, there are provisions for two resreve candidates in every region and that provision should be used in this case. Gulleford is being investigated, and Andrew Smith advised senior members of the Party to deceive the Electorol Commission about donation procedures. We could safely trust Robin Page as an alternative candidate to either of those. Sorry mrabody, these kind of things should be exposed and not flippantly explained.

mrabody

Thank you for explaining it. If Fordtit/Legin/Hulkman/Fenland/insert new alias here/insert the other five alias I have omitted had described the situation in some detail as you have then I might not have asked the question I did. I say might because I do not think that your description of what happens supports the thesis that this was a deliberate attempt to deny Mr. Page the opportunity to apply to be an MEP. First of all, if Peter Reeve wished to deny Mr. Page the opportunity to stand why phone him in the first place? Do we have any indication whether Mr. Page did in fact have any firm intention of standing in next years Euro elections before Mr. Reeve hinted that his inclusion on the list would be "welcomed". And why would he hint that he would be "welcomed" if the intention was to deny Mr. Page the opportunity to stand? Why not "discourage" him. Why phone him at all?

I still question the wisdom of having someone else to fill out ones MEP application form. It seems to me that the fact that Mr. Page was recoverying from surgery is no excuse for not filling out the form himself. Presumably it would provide an occupation to wile away the hours (or wile away half an hour) whilst recuperating thus sparing onself from the misery of reading The DaVinci Code or some such trash. Now depending on the severity of the surgery that he was recoverying he may not have been able to get out and about in order to collect the ten required signatures, but surely Mr. Page has friends and associates in UKIP who could have done so on his behalf.

Then there is the issue of whether Mr. Page was diligent in following up to make sure everything was submitted. The deadline to submit an application was the 16th of May. When did he follow up with head office? Did he think to follow up with Mr. Reeve prior to the 16th of May to make sure that the application had been completed and submitted? Presumably Mr. Page provided Mr. Reeve with a cheque in the amount of £250. Did he check to see if it had been cashed?

There are too many questions left unanswered to determine whether this was some terrible plot by Dr. Evil (Mr. Gulleford) and Minime (Mr. Reeve), or whether it was a simple oversight on Mr. Reeve's part. The question of whether Mr. Page showed sufficient diligence in his quest to become an MEP candidate, or whether he behaved in a lackidasical manner is also open.

You ask whom I should trust, Mr. Page or Mr. Reeve. I have met neither man so I will not form an opinion until I have had an opportunity to speak with both of them. I can assure you that I do not trust anything that comes out of the mouth of that dishonest twerp Eagle/Star/Fenland/etc etc/ad nauseum and it is my opinion that you shouldn't either Geoffrey. You do yourself no favours falling in the internet equivalent of David Icke's shapeshifting lizards.

Mikeuk

Something smells here. These allegations should be fully investigated.

I have already advocated that Reeve be suspended from his office until his alleged misconduct has been checked out.

Grim up north

Well I am glad he hasn't been suspended from office if it is based upon an anonymous, third party allegation about possible problems. If that's all it takes to suspend someone then heaven help us all. We will end up where the allegation is sufficient to finish someone, rather like teachers are currently finished if a malicious allegation of child abuse is made against them, they have to prove innocence and even after they have done so then the stain of the allegation remains!

I might suspect every UKIP member on this forum is guilty of something, not sure what but everyone has something to hide so can I advocate everyone be suspended from UKIP membership until they can prove they are not involved in ANYTHING. Of course when mass suspensions do not take place then I can post on here that something smells!

If you believe Reeve is guilty of misconduct then report him formally to the Party Chairman and produce your evidence, otherwise SHUT UP!

Mikeuk

We're not talking about ordinary members. We are talking about someone who is paid effectively out of the public purse, and we have received enough accusations of financial irregularities since a few UKIP MEPs joined the Strasbourg talking-shop and a couple got their snouts in the trough with all the other pigs.

There are a string of allegations on here, including his illegal conduct vis-a-vis the BNP and his irregular domestic arrangements. He is clearly extremely unpopular with many members.

I do not see what possible skills a former fork lift driver can bring to a position of responsibility. A retired professional should replace him.

So...suspend him and get rid of him once found guilty. As for you, Newbie, I work under the assumption that you are he.

Grim up north

Give him a fair trial THEN hang him? How does that sit with British Justice?

Once again you are wrong. However that's now 2 Regional Organisers that I've been accused of being! I actually think the RO's do a very good job in most cases and would do even better if some MEPs spent less time, money and effort in Brussels and more in the UK. However, the MEPs who do this then get attacked on this forum for "illegally" spending EU money.