Proposed UKIP policy - Scrap Speed Cameras and Parking Restrictions

HM · 08-07-2008, 06:04 PM

See also: Shared space - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It actually cuts the number of traffic related injuries (as proven by a Dutch town).

C_steam · 08-07-2008, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

The policy speaks for itself

maybe so, but a reference to where the thing can be read would be helpful!

Bob FM · 08-07-2008, 06:17 PM

kernow, like 90% of the population

kernow · 08-07-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob FM

kernow, like 90% of the population

I'm in the 90% who drive at times too fast, but I'm in the other 10% who are considerate parker's! I need a law on one but not on the other!

C_steam · 08-07-2008, 08:02 PM

Aaaargh! where is the reference? why are we trying to discuss something that does not appear to have a corporeal existence?

Mikeuk · 08-07-2008, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HM

See also: Shared space - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It actually cuts the number of traffic related injuries (as proven by a Dutch town).

Bullsh*t!

HM · 08-07-2008, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

Bullsh*t!

Another addition to your semantic field of excrement there!

Mikeuk · 09-07-2008, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Aardvark

I'd scrap the speed cameras, but would keep yellow lines in most places. The way some people park the centres of our towns would grind to a halt as people left insufficent room for other cars to get through. You also would get people literally abandoning cars for days on end if there were no parking restrictions. Could you imagine Heathrow without yellow lines?

Speed enforcement is targetted at a set of speed limits established a long time ago when road conditions were completely different. It needs a real debate about why we even need speed limits at certain times of day or night on certain roads. I'd remove motorway speed limits between dawn and about 9 am on summer weekend mornings and let the people who have fast motors enjoy themselves (no tolerance of drinking or drugs in such conditions and people should be insured). We need a society where people can enjoy themselves not have pettyfogging restrictions placed on their every move.

Double yellow lines could be kept at corners and other places where parking could cause accidents. Otherwise scrap them.

Otherwise, as long as the cars are not abandoned, what does it matter? People keep their own cars outside their houses for months on end.

I don't suppose it would make much difference to Heathrow. You could leave your car somewhere but you would have to walk to the terminal. These days you can book a week's parking with courtesy buses for £10-20 online.

What infuriates me is where arbitary restrictions have been placed on streets abutting commuter rail stations. I could name a few which are like a ghost town during the day when all the residents have taken their cars to work anyway.

Geoffrey Collier · 09-07-2008, 08:58 AM

Aardvark: I think that we should confine our discussion to yellow lines, as a means by which some progress might be made. Councils agree to allow multi-storey car parking in congested areas of a town or city. Sounds all very good on the surface, but look deeper! In order to obtain the best price for the land, freehold/leasehold, they exclude street parking within a certain area of the proposed multi-storey car park. When you deduct that parking exclusion from the 'additional' parking spaces created by NCP, or whoever, the actual increase created by the muli-parking is very small. It is a triumph for affectation over reality. The parking spaces removed were often free, all the newly created ones are 'charged'. That is something which we as a Party could address. (A good local issue)

Moan number two: in many town areas residents can obtain their own designated parking outside their own houses. I have some sympathy for the plight of residents in some areas, but 'resident parking' has a very unfortunate downside. En masse, those residents depart for work, leaving street after street virtually deserted of cars. At the same time, shoppers/visitors are searching for parking spaces which do not exist. I believe that resident-parking has some merit, but it should apply only between the hours of, say, 5pm and 8am. I believe that this would cause littlle inconvenience for residents, while increasing parking spaces for others.

Those two separate issues which I have identified, would mitigate the parking-problem to some extent. That's all I have to say m'lud.

Rosie · 09-07-2008, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HM

See also: Shared space - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It actually cuts the number of traffic related injuries (as proven by a Dutch town).

I seem to remember an article about shared space on the UKIP website, around February I think, but cannot trace it.

Having a dumb day here it is:

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Geoffrey Collier Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,006	Aardvark: I think that we should confine our discussion to yellow lines, as a means by which some progress might be made. Councils agree to allow multi-storey car parking in congested areas of a town or city. Sounds all very good on the surface, but look deeper! In order to obtain the best price for the land, freehold/leasehold, they exclude street parking within a certain area of the proposed multi-storey car park. When you deduct that parking exclusion from the 'additional' parking spaces created by NCP, or whoever, the actual increase created by the muli-parking is very small. It is a triumph for affectation over reality. The parking spaces removed were often free, all the newly created ones are 'charged'. That is something which we as a Party could address. (A good local issue) Moan number two: in many town areas residents can obtain their own designated parking outside their own houses. I have some sympathy for the plight of residents in some areas, but 'resident parking' has a very unfortunate downside. En masse, those residents depart for work, leaving street after street virtually deserted of cars. At the same time, shoppers/visitors are searching for parking spaces which do not exist. I believe that resident-parking has some merit, but it should apply only between the hours of, say, 5pm and 8am. I believe that this would cause littlle inconvenience for residents, while increasing parking spaces for others. Those two separate issues which I have identified, would mitigate the parking-problem to some extent. That's all I have to say m'lud.