Reasons to be cheerful, part 3

Earthling · 06-07-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob FM

Mikeuk, I truly believe that if we ignore most of what is posted on here and get out amongst the people, highlight the cynicism of the European message we can pick up vital votes. I am hearing rumours locally with regard to Honda that could well explode into a major reason for the people of Swindon and Wiltshire to rally against the EU.

Perhaps after the explosion you could make it the debate on your radio show.

The Nationalist · 06-07-2008, 08:04 PM

Don’t worry UKIP people I think you will do well in the next general election and I hope we get a few seats with you.

It is a bit scary how much support the Conservatives gained on local elections but there are large numbers that see that they are just the same as New Labour. Only people who don’t follow politics end up following the main parties and you can see this from looking at online political forums like these. There are many who still believe Labour is for the working class and Conservatives for the wealthy classes when it really does not work like that.

Independence Now! · 06-07-2008, 10:11 PM

Blue Labour is just the more capitalist version of Internationalism. The Tories are as globalist and anti-British as Labour are. The BNP should print some leaflets with a picture of Dave Boy on and a picture of Gordon Brown with the strapline, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"!

If people want to send a message to the PC Establishment about the EU, crime (knife crime is getting seriously out of control) and particularly mass, uncontrolled immigration they should vote BNP.

Mikeuk · 07-07-2008, 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Raymond Finch

Last night I went to a party in a VERY Tory area. Virtually everyone I spoke to was very much a traditional tory and many were actually party members. Now I don't mix in this sort of circle generally because I live in a very working class area and am from Liverpool originally and Scouse Tories are as rare as good news for Gordon Brown. What I found was with only one qualified exception ( which I will come to) they all said, although they would normally vote tory in a general election, they would be voting UKIP in the Euros. The qualified exception came from a chap who said he would only vote tory for Daniel Hannan as he was "sound". The rest of them accepted the Conservative party were "useless" on the EU.
It certainly cheered me up after listening to the BNP members and stooges and the disillusioned exUKIPpers on here saying we were going to get murdered next year.
Bring it on!

I'm not sure how long you have been involved in politics, Ray, but if like me you had been involved with the Conservative Party for 30+ years you would not be surprised by any of this.

Most Conservatives dislike all the same things I dislike, which includes the EU, They are only tolerating Cameron because - so far - he has brought them good luck.

When his luck goes, so will he.

Bob FM · 07-07-2008, 05:54 AM

Hardly think the Lewis thing is good luck.

Raymond Finch · 07-07-2008, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeuk

I'm not sure how long you have been involved in politics, Ray, but if like me you had been involved with the Conservative Party for 30+ years you would not be surprised by any of this.

Most Conservatives dislike all the same things I dislike, which includes the EU, They are only tolerating Cameron because - so far - he has brought them good luck.

When his luck goes, so will he.

Never been involved with the Conservative Party Mike.
And we don't have many garden parties in Leigh Park. ;-)
I was counteracting, from first hand, immediate, experience those who said the Tories would not be voting for us in the EU elections.
We need to be targeting Camerons pro-EU leanings as much as possible.

Earthling · 07-07-2008, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikeuk

I'm not sure how long you have been involved in politics, Ray, but if like me you had been involved with the Conservative Party for 30+ years you would not be surprised by any of this.

Most Conservatives dislike all the same things I dislike, which includes the EU, They are only tolerating Cameron because - so far - he has brought them good luck.

When his luck goes, so will he.

By which time our independence will be gone too and we will have adopted a foreign currency

Mikeuk · 08-07-2008, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Raymond Finch

Never been involved with the Conservative Party Mike.
And we don't have many garden parties in Leigh Park. ;-)
I was counteracting, from first hand, immediate, experience those who said the Tories would not be voting for us in the EU elections.
We need to be targeting Camerons pro-EU leanings as much as possible.

This was a Tory Party event?

Raymond Finch · 08-07-2008, 08:07 AM

No Mike.
But given where I live and where I work I don't meet Conservative party members normally. The place was full of them. Very nice people they were too and utterly sympathetic to us. It is a shame we can't tempt more of them over. We need to prove our electability to Westminster first. That is our real challenge. Once we achieve that we will be overwhelmed with members.

Mikeuk · 08-07-2008, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Raymond Finch

We need to prove our electability to Westminster first. That is our real challenge. Once we achieve that we will be overwhelmed with members.

Without PR it will never happen.

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06-07-2008, 08:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
The Nationalist Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 152 Party: BNP	Don’t worry UKIP people I think you will do well in the next general election and I hope we get a few seats with you. It is a bit scary how much support the Conservatives gained on local elections but there are large numbers that see that they are just the same as New Labour. Only people who don’t follow politics end up following the main parties and you can see this from looking at online political forums like these. There are many who still believe Labour is for the working class and Conservatives for the wealthy classes when it really does not work like that.

06-07-2008, 10:11 PM	#13 (permalink)
Independence Now! Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,096	Blue Labour is just the more capitalist version of Internationalism. The Tories are as globalist and anti-British as Labour are. The BNP should print some leaflets with a picture of Dave Boy on and a picture of Gordon Brown with the strapline, "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"! If people want to send a message to the PC Establishment about the EU, crime (knife crime is getting seriously out of control) and particularly mass, uncontrolled immigration they should vote BNP.

07-07-2008, 05:54 AM	#15 (permalink)
Bob FM Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: South Marston Swindon Posts: 1,125	Hardly think the Lewis thing is good luck.

08-07-2008, 08:07 AM	#19 (permalink)
Raymond Finch Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 515	No Mike. But given where I live and where I work I don't meet Conservative party members normally. The place was full of them. Very nice people they were too and utterly sympathetic to us. It is a shame we can't tempt more of them over. We need to prove our electability to Westminster first. That is our real challenge. Once we achieve that we will be overwhelmed with members.